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Almost third of UK Covid hospital patients readmitted within four months

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Re: Almost third of UK Covid hospital patients readmitted within four months

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Post by anoncake »

itake wrote: post #53
anoncake wrote: post #48

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> Long Covid is real. But temporary -- and not all that long compared to the hell we've all had to endure for more than a year now -- except in extremely rare cases. Evidence to the contrary is welcome, after more than a year there should be some.

> surveys conducted by patient groups indicate that 50% to 80% of patients continue to have bothersome symptoms three months after the onset of COVID-19 — even after tests no longer detect virus in their body. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-tragedy-of-the-post-... Search for the term "covid long haulers" to get more information.

Avoiding three months of suffering for some people is hardly a reason to make everyone suffer for 15 months and counting.

> Search for the term "covid long haulers" to get more information.

No. https://thelogicofscience.com/2016/09/27/dont-tell-people-to...

Re: Almost third of UK Covid hospital patients readmitted within four months

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Post by anoncake »

b3kart wrote: post #55
anoncake wrote: post #48

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> Long Covid is real. But temporary -- and not all that long compared to the hell we've all had to endure for more than a year now -- except in extremely rare cases. Evidence to the contrary is welcome, after more than a year there should be some.

> Evidence to the contrary is welcome You understand the burden of proof is on the person who's making a claim, not on people who disagree with the claim? I've too suffered being stuck at home for more than a year, but in my book this is still better than me or somebody else getting sick with god-only-knows what long term complications, which we don't have data for one way or another, and won't for some time still.

I completely agree that the burden of proof is on the one making the claim. The claim in question is that a significant percentage of those who get Covid will have permanent (or at least long-term) damage.

> which we don't have data for one way or another, and won't for some time still.

Exactly. There is no evidence for "long Covid" as a frequent phenomenon. The pandemic has been going on for 15 months. Yet those who believe in long Covid still only provide evidence that people aren't always fully recovered after timespans like 3 months.

If Covid frequently caused permanent damage, there would be a lot of people who were infected, say, a year ago, who haven't recovered and show no sign of doing so (their condition has plateaued). There would be studies showing that, there isn't exactly a shortage of scientists researching the topic. And, obviously, people would provide that evidence as it would support their point better. Yet they don't.

Re: Almost third of UK Covid hospital patients readmitted within four months

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Post by AshWolfy »

systemvoltage wrote: post #138
AshWolfy wrote: post #112

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We love to say something isnt possible, while other countries do what we just said isnt possible.

USA is 330 million people. New Zealand is 1/2 the population of SF Bay Area. Just because NZ can demonstrate good COVID control, it cannot just apply at a massive nation. China has done it with authoritarian enforcement. There is no solution to this for USA, EU or large countries. Asian nations such as Japan and Korea are culturally different than the west. It’s impossible to change the culture of 330 million overnig…

Each country has different advantages and challenges. For example South Korea is incredibly dense and dependent on public transit. Germany has no hard border. China is massive, Australia's government is dysfunctional. We arent special, we just didnt meet our unique challenges

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Post by dang »

jhayward wrote: post #158
klyrs wrote: post #120

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So... you weren't hospitalized, and also weren't readmitted to the hospital? What's the purpose of this anecdote?

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Please don't post in the flamewar style to HN.

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Post by [deleted] »

spookthesunset wrote: post #159
castis wrote: post #65

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I wish to point out that the hell you're describing is also temporary, and would have possibly been much shorter if everyone had just gone along with it from the start.

> would have possibly been much shorter if everyone had just gone along with it from the start. So what you are saying is, despite "the experts" saying exactly the opposite... by slowing the spread of covid we'd somehow be out of this sooner? Do you guys realize how insane this logic sounds? The goal of these lockdowns was to intentionally slow down the spread. Not stop or eradicate covid. Harder lockdowns mean this…

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Re: Almost third of UK Covid hospital patients readmitted within four months

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Post by ckosidows »

Twounwhe wrote: post #150
ckosidows wrote: post #130

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Sounded like anxiety to me. I experience a number of those things on and off again and as far as I can tell they've always been because of anxiety. They can feel serious but it's often just your mind telling you something is wrong when it's not. Not a doctor. Could be wrong. Just sound like anxiety symptoms from my experience.

(I'm not the person you were replying to.). I've had similar symptoms, and more, for the past 8 months. Heart palpitations, feeling of heaviness in the chest, strange exhaustion... I admit this does sound like anxiety. However, after suffering from anxiety for two decades, I've learned what my anxiety feels like. This is different. It's like comparing grits and runny oatmeal--I can understand why many descriptions ar…

Is this after you had Covid? I've never been diagnosed with anxiety (though I have had pretty significant panic attacks around family) nor have I had Covid. I only started feeling these particular things since Covid became a world-wide event. Maybe it's a particular kind of anxiety caused by isolation?

So maybe I'm wrong and I haven't been experiencing anxiety when I have these symptoms. I agree it's a bit different than having a panic attack in my experience.

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Post by lenkite »

bserge wrote: post #93
jaybrendansmith wrote: post #43

Long Covid is real. I had a mild case back in August, but it took around 5 months to feel 'normal' again. Lots of inexplicable things: Minor heart palpitations, feeling of 'heaviness' behind my breastbone. When I exercised, even moderately like running a half mile, I would feel strangely exhausted for many hours later. All of this has gone away now, but I can easily see how someone who is hospitalized could have a re…

I'll just add my own experience. I had almost no symptoms, no cough, no taste loss, not even sniffles. Likely infection date 15th of February. PCR test on the 24th of February. No symptoms at that point. 2 days later, I started feeling more tired than usual. The next day I had a mild fever and was sweating more than usual when exercising. This lasted 3 days, after which I only felt the fatigue for another 5 days. No…

Isn't taking levothyroxine without doctor prescription dangerous ? I mean this is a drug, not a Vitamin tablet.
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