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Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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Post by lamp987 »

prepend wrote: post #8
nix23 wrote: post #3

Already GPLv3 infected.... But fun-fact: >The GCC Steering Committee is committed to providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all, regardless of gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disabilities, neurodiversity, physical appearance, body size, ethnicity, nationality, race, age, religion, or similar personal characteristics.

I think it’s interesting to see this list get longer year by year. It’s good to have an ideal of welcoming, but curious to me what particular characteristics are “list worthy.” It reminds me when those people raise their hand in a talk and say “what about security” and aren’t happy until you add the word “security.” Comically, even if nothing in the content is changed. Just adding the word makes them happy and I foun…

it signals in-group membership to others. it doesnt actually mean anything.

>hello, i too am one of "us" *wink wink*. lets mutually support each other in conflicts with people from the out-group.

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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Post by foobiter »

sadmann1 wrote: post #24

These foundations have always been a thorn in the sides of corporate interests. Kicking their teeth in under the guise of tolerance is an efficient way of doing it. Weird how the movement is as tolerant as the nazis to whoever doesn't subscribe to their buzzwords and blatant exploitation of minorities' problems for faux outrage.

Is there any evidence of this because it sounds very hyperbolic. Stallman can barely use a computer at this point, so I’m not sure why he would need to be destroyed by multi-billion dollar companies.

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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Post by roenxi »

jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #36
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #21

Another interesting comment from the thread: > 4. Regarding morality. This letter (like many other sjw creatures) says many words about morality, diversity, but at the end of the day it boils down to removing Stallman from position. As a citizen of post-soviet country I can vividly see that this letter is enterely about politics and looks very similar to communist agenda which likes to hide authoritarian policies beh…

This is preposterous. Removing a serially abusive person from a position of power is in no way soviet style authoritarianism, and has absolutely nothing to do with communism or capitalism. This is a private organization removing someone for poor behavior according to their own bylaws. It is not somehow a symbol for the fall of liberal capitalism in the US. Please. People are removed from boards and committees for poo…

The accusations that Stallman is a 'serial abuser' are strictly innuendo at this point. The flow of his detractors is one of wilful misinterpretation and unreasonableness.

Removing Stallman isn't an economic decision, true enough. But it is the same hubris of believing that someone's political trappings and status should determine their influence on technical matters. The Free Software community can survive without Stallman. But it is extremely worrying if the Free Software community feels Stallman is so at odds with their mission that they want to cast him out.

Stallman has flaws, but his commitment to that cause is really beyond question. It is appropriate to give him a voice in deciding how these projects are run. He is a reliable lighthouse for working out what is and isn't free about software.

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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Post by gallier2 »

bjourne wrote: post #40
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #21

Another interesting comment from the thread: > 4. Regarding morality. This letter (like many other sjw creatures) says many words about morality, diversity, but at the end of the day it boils down to removing Stallman from position. As a citizen of post-soviet country I can vividly see that this letter is enterely about politics and looks very similar to communist agenda which likes to hide authoritarian policies beh…

The stated reason for removing Stallman is the belief that he is "toxic". You may disagree with that but it has nothing to do with Stallman's political views.

Declaration of toxicity is purest politic rhetoric, you knob.

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

bjourne wrote: post #40
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #21

Another interesting comment from the thread: > 4. Regarding morality. This letter (like many other sjw creatures) says many words about morality, diversity, but at the end of the day it boils down to removing Stallman from position. As a citizen of post-soviet country I can vividly see that this letter is enterely about politics and looks very similar to communist agenda which likes to hide authoritarian policies beh…

The stated reason for removing Stallman is the belief that he is "toxic". You may disagree with that but it has nothing to do with Stallman's political views.

That's correct; what I mean is that in cases like these you are not allowed to sit on the fence. Orgs like FSF, Red Hat/IBM, GCC SC are under enormous pressure. They are being told that if they do nothing then it basically means they are supporting Stallman ("the defender of Epstein!" "pedophile apologist!"). So in a way they have no choice, they have to give in.

Frankly, I've seen in my life several "coups" like this. There is a great rage, people feel fed up and overthrow the leader. There is a moment of excitement, then the dust settles and what remains is a bland void. The enthusiasm disappears, it turns out that charisma is not easy to replace, and the whole projects slowly withers into total insignificance.

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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Post by eye8one2 »

CIA plot to destroy open source software. Fake accusations will continue to be made by agents who are being paid to do so. Eventually when all the old guard has been removed everything will be corporatized and the GPL will be rescinded on all open source projects converting them to closed source capitalist piggy oink oink projects.

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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Post by finikytou »

bjourne wrote: post #40
dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #21

Another interesting comment from the thread: > 4. Regarding morality. This letter (like many other sjw creatures) says many words about morality, diversity, but at the end of the day it boils down to removing Stallman from position. As a citizen of post-soviet country I can vividly see that this letter is enterely about politics and looks very similar to communist agenda which likes to hide authoritarian policies beh…

The stated reason for removing Stallman is the belief that he is "toxic". You may disagree with that but it has nothing to do with Stallman's political views.

yeah. you will see the first time you get fired from a job. they will surely give you a valid reason that make sense without any hidden agenda. Or maybe they will ask your colleagues and investigate to find anything they can use against you to remove you, call you toxic and make it a day

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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Post by tasty_freeze »

betterdedthnred wrote: post #38
prepend wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it’s interesting to see this list get longer year by year. It’s good to have an ideal of welcoming, but curious to me what particular characteristics are “list worthy.” It reminds me when those people raise their hand in a talk and say “what about security” and aren’t happy until you add the word “security.” Comically, even if nothing in the content is changed. Just adding the word makes them happy and I foun…

The list is every growing because the list is defined by intersections of oppression as laid out by the concept of intersectionality as defined in the academic field of Critical Theory That's why the Biden Administration recently added "gender identity" to the definition of sex as it pertains to segregated spaces reserved for women ie battered womens' shelters and sports leagues, to allow biological males to enter an…

> Now downvote me, believers! I'll die before I adopt this racist godless faith

A very brave stance to take ... for a 22 minute old throwaway account.

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