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Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by shuntress » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:34 AM UTC

What is going on in the comments to this article?

Why has this relatively minor youtube feature change dredged up such significant vitriol and conspiracy-adjacent rhetoric in the hacker news comments?

Skimming all the comments here I'm seeing lots of flaming and hand-wringing. I don't have any actual measures, but to me it feels like significantly more than normal even for an article about a high-profile site/company.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by frosted-flakes » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:38 AM UTC

fasteo wrote: post #86

Related - and maybe off-topic. I have never participated in any change.org campaign for a similar reason: You cannot sign to oppose, so you end up with an extremely distorted view of a given matter.

But that's always how petitions have worked. Whoever created the petition is only interested in collecting signatures of people who agree with their proposal, so that they can bring it to legislators, authorities, etc. and say that 'this many people also want this'. Collecting signatures of people who disagree is counter-productive.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by duskwuff » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:39 AM UTC

motbob wrote: post #74

duskwuff wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I mean, there was once a HUGE glut of videos with misleading thumbnails/titles Oh, that's still happening. It never stopped.

If the problem still exists, it's way less noticeable than it was in 2010.

It's still absolutely rampant for some types of search terms. For example, try searching for "electronic projects", "crafts", or "life hacks" in an incognito window. The vast majority of the results for all of those search terms have misleading thumbnails and/or descriptions.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by AzzieElbab » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:39 AM UTC

They should make a video about it before removing the dislikes

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by Google234 » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:40 AM UTC

This is terrible and user hostile. How can I avoid bad content now? Why does YT care more about the feelings of a few super star creators than the user base?

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by frosted-flakes » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:40 AM UTC

omar_kha wrote: post #254

you know this website has no down vote, twitter also has no dislike button

Hacker News has always had a down-vote button, but there's a minimum karma count to be able to use it.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by YinLuck- » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:42 AM UTC

shuntress wrote: post #351

What is going on in the comments to this article? Why has this relatively minor youtube feature change dredged up such significant vitriol and conspiracy-adjacent rhetoric in the hacker news comments? Skimming all the comments here I'm seeing lots of flaming and hand-wringing. I don't have any actual measures, but to me it feels like significantly more than normal even for an article about a high-profile site/company…

This change was done at the behest of the White House. If you look at the White House official YouTube channel, you will see that every video during the Biden presidency thus far has a 90%+ dislike ratio.

It is obvious that a large number of people contest the legitimacy of the current regime and are using the dislike as a form of protest, so the regime is doing what all such illegitimate regimes do and censoring acts of protest.

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Post by DaniloDias » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:44 AM UTC

ravenstine wrote: post #5

How else is the mainstream supposed to spin reality? Entertainment giants used to more easily create the illusion of consensus, but web platforms like YouTube completely mess with their power by showing downvotes.

Is anyone else feeling like it is getting weird? I cannot conceive how anyone thinks anything positive to google.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by agumonkey » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:46 AM UTC

now innovation in the web is about removing so called innovations, let's iterate quickly and remove the rest..

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by jp555 » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:46 AM UTC

ironmagma wrote: post #331

8note wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's still the advertiser, isn't it?

The phrase is defined as “a person who ultimately uses or is intended to ultimately use a product.” When YouTube was created, it was intended to show videos to users. There were no ads yet. So the intention is for the viewers to be the users.

As long as it's still 2006.