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Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by [deleted] »

bogomipz wrote: post #272
Retric wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, but this is the last Google product I still use. If they break YouTube like they did search, chrome, cellphones, and email, I guess I am off to find something else which must hurt their bottom line eventually.

>"If they break YouTube like they did search ..." I'm curious what you mean by search being broken? Do you mean the quality of search results or something with search functionality. I ask because lately I've found the quality of certain search results to be increasingly disappointing. I'm not sure if that corresponds to some known change they've made recently though.

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Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by Drew_ »

barbacoa wrote: post #155

Has anyone else been slowly watching YouTube turn into cable TV? When I search "Hong Kong protests" I just get a bunch of videos from CNN and Fox News, not that long ago a search like that would turn up first hand videos of people who were there. Now they are copying streaming services in making it harder to tell what is garbage and what is worth watching.

News networks have much better SEO than John Doe with a phone and 0 subscribers.

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Post by RugnirViking »

holler wrote: post #212
munk-a wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want a free speech platform you should advocate for a government funded competitor. You might think that the NSA would instantly prune comments but you'd be failing to see the 800 lbs gorilla which is the US GAO and FOIA requests that'd hamstring anything the intelligence branches tried to do (outside of, y'know, legitimate threats).

That's an interesting idea. I'm working on an alternative discussion site and have wondered why the Gov doesn't do more to foster competition rather than hold pointless hearings with the same 3 people over and over again.

Because that would interfere with their agenda of getting hired/getting their children hired by those same monopoly companies after leaving office

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by mikeg8 »

sokoloff wrote: post #13
BitwiseFool wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While technically true, showing the Like/Dislike count provided valuable information for viewers. Determining whether or not a video is worth my time will become a lot more difficult.

I'd argue that HN got better after they hid the karma (net of 1 + up - down) on a per-comment basis (even though I was initially opposed to the change at the time). They can still use like/dislike metrics to decide which videos to offer you and in what sort order, so there's still some signal available.

Investing 30 seconds reading a comment vs 12 minutes on a video is not the same thing.

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Post by EricE »

retsibsi wrote: post #225
EricE wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If logic were involved we wouldn't be having a discussion about removing dislikes in the first place, no? :)

Come on, I'm trying not to dismiss your perspective just because it sounds a bit conspiratorial, but this is not convincing. Are you saying the YouTube execs (or whoever is leaning on them) are just acting emotionally with no strategy?

There is absolutely a strategy - there is a particular point of view they favor, and anything counter to it is removed.

Dislikes are embarrassing to, for lack of better terminology, their pet causes. Simply disabling them on certain videos or channels calls even more attention to them - so why not just remove them entirely.

The only thing surprising to me is that it took them this long.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by mikeg8 »

stolenmerch wrote: post #33

I'd love if they just remove Likes as well, honestly. I've been using the 'Hide Likes' Chrome Extension for over a year now. I have to say, not seeing Likes or Dislikes on YouTube and other social media is a huge quality of life increase. There is a perceptible difference in reaction when you don't know how popular or unpopular something on the internet is.

> huge quality of life increase

Ah, the first world, and our struggles...

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by ziml77 »

I have an extension that shows the likes/dislikes under the video thumbnails. When I look at the news section of the main page, it's been very consistent for months that there's an overwhelming number of dislikes on any video about COVID. Same for things about Biden (but wasn't an issue on positive news about Trump). I wonder if this is why they're removing dislikes. Could be that the media has pressured them to.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by balozi »

ipaddr wrote: post #281

The dislike score is a relic of the past. A dislike is a measure of how bad google did at showing you content you expected. Type in show boat videos and they show you a love boat video so you hit dislike. There was never anything wrong with the loveboat video, it was just shown to someone looking for something else.

A dislike is a signaling of my general satisfaction with all aspects of that video. Content is poor? Dislike! AI recommendation was poor? Dislike!! Too much advertising? Dislike!!!

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by pmiller2 »

EricE wrote: post #92
retsibsi wrote: post #9

This seems rather user-hostile. The downvote count is useful for identifying videos that aren't what they claim to be. And how about DIY videos that give terrible advice? A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not.

Your first mistake was thinking that you are the user they care about serving :p

Something something pay for it something something you are the product.
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