Type in show boat videos and they show you a love boat video so you hit dislike. There was never anything wrong with the loveboat video, it was just shown to someone looking for something else.
Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
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Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#282This seems rather user-hostile. The downvote count is useful for identifying videos that aren't what they claim to be. And how about DIY videos that give terrible advice? A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not.
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are not paying, right? So you are the product. You are targeted with ads tailored to your viewing pattern; your data is what creates value.
I am actually paying to get rid of advertisements, not to get rid of useful features. This will just get me to stick with my channel subscriptions, as the recommendations are already often better and better scams.
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#284This seems rather user-hostile. The downvote count is useful for identifying videos that aren't what they claim to be. And how about DIY videos that give terrible advice? A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not.
Look at the downvotes of this channel. Just pick any video since Jan. It's around 4:1 dislikes to likes. You can bet this is why they're doing it. https://www.youtube.com/c/WhiteHouse/videos
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#285Users should just comment "dislike" (or some form of it) from here on out. Or maybe people can rate videos on a 3rd party service.
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#286Has anyone else been slowly watching YouTube turn into cable TV? When I search "Hong Kong protests" I just get a bunch of videos from CNN and Fox News, not that long ago a search like that would turn up first hand videos of people who were there. Now they are copying streaming services in making it harder to tell what is garbage and what is worth watching.
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#287How else is the mainstream supposed to spin reality? Entertainment giants used to more easily create the illusion of consensus, but web platforms like YouTube completely mess with their power by showing downvotes.
But that's the point! Yours and others' belief that down voting is a mean to register dissent. Since dissent is orthogonal to quality down votes no longer indicate lack of quality. Thus the metric becomes meaningless. In fact, if Google and other tech companies were to continue using down votes to measure quality, the end result would be strengthening the majority's echo chamber. Suppose there is a YouTube channel ab…
If you said 2 + 2 = 5, I would disagree. This is a trivial example of dissent completely entangled with quality.
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not outraged - I'm amused. The ultimate admission the only way they can spread their messaging is through force, not honest competition of ideas. How superior. Nothing proves you have a worthy argument better than outright hiding from dissent. Again, they don't care if you stay on the platform. If they did, they wouldn't touch it. The disagreement buttons were added in the first place because they increase and ma…
To be clear, they aren't removing the button, or a way for users to register their dislike or track that they already disliked a video (I assume), just the count of how many other people disliked it. As a matter of engagement, I'm not sure how much that statistic brings to the table. I agree it might make filtering out crap content somewhat harder, but I'm not sure how good it ever was for that. It might be that the…
The inability to downvote substantially alters what is said/ranked highly, I think.
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#289I have never seen a video which I thought "This is a bad video, nobody should watch this video" and had lots of dislikes. I don't think clicking that would even achieve its goal, clicking the dislike button is engagement and shows you cared about this content enough to do something.
So this change seems fine to me. Dislike will still exist, but now it won't cause a snowclone we didn't really need and it doesn't make numbers go up visibly.
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Again, they don't care if you stay on the platform. Why not? Even if you're right that they care more about propaganda than money, what's the point of propagandising to an empty room?
People won't leave that easily. Nobody compares to YouTube. Facebook had no way of voicing disapproval for a long time and membership still increased. They are testing various options which might mean they're weighting the relative benefits and damage. And besides, they may be in a position where they have no choice if propaganda is more important than money.
They have like, love, care, haha, wow, sad, angry
Angry != disapprove because in the context of the other "emotions" it does not distinguish between disliking the post itself, or what it's referencing. If you post "Candidate X did Y" are you angry because the candidate did Y or because your friend posted something anti candidate X?