Like Twitter lists, you can always skip the recommendation algorithm through crafted subscription.
I really need to make my own youtube client which defaults to the subscriptions page and implements infinite pagination.
Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
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Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your first mistake was thinking that you are the user they care about serving :p
Perhaps, but this is the last Google product I still use. If they break YouTube like they did search, chrome, cellphones, and email, I guess I am off to find something else which must hurt their bottom line eventually.
>"If they break YouTube like they did search ..."
I'm curious what you mean by search being broken? Do you mean the quality of search results or something with search functionality. I ask because lately I've found the quality of certain search results to be increasingly disappointing. I'm not sure if that corresponds to some known change they've made recently though.
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#273Isn’t the title misleading? They are not removing dislikes; they are testing UI without them. Huge difference.
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would say votes aren't a signal at all. You can be voted in either direction for anything. You don't know who's voting or why. All that article shows is that the votes are manipulated by users too, there's no signal in down vote brigading like that
How could votes not be a signal? That would only be true if everyone used a stochastic generator to choose up or down.
You have no idea why people are voting (or even if they are people). Even just based off quality, what does that mean, the content is good? The production quality is good? Maybe it's getting downvoted because the creator said something on Twitter, unrelated to the video. The only thing it could possibly signal is attention it's getting and even that would be iffy
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#275Targeted dislike campaigns are clearly a thing. I'm glad they are doing this.
For what percentage of videos? 0.0001%? Seems like they're tossing out the baby with the bathwater, punishing everyone using YouTube in order to protect a very small number from criticism.
I've seen a bunch of what I would consider likely candidates. Obviously nobody has proof of any of this, but controversial subjects get storms of downvotes all the time.
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are all over this thread claiming that the White House is explicitly pressuring Google to remove this feature of the site. Do you have supporting evidence, or did you just make this up? It seems more like you have a narrative and agenda to push.
The White House is just the last one whose videos dislikes are being made fun of and shared in memes I'm sure YouTube consulted with their biggest customers and partners before removing a functionality that increases engagement
Yeah the only reason The White House YouTube channel receives views right now is because Trump used it to to campaign and it became fairly popular amongst his supporters. It's main audience is still his supporters because most people don't really watch The White House on YouTube.
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#277It's strange, I upvote pretty much without a thought but I will consider a downvote, it has to be sincerely offensive, wrong or dangerous to get a downvote. To me at least a downvote tells an important story.
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#278you know this website has no down vote, twitter also has no dislike button
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Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the incredible degree of hatred the black actress got I really don't recall Leslie Jones receiving as much backlash as certain outlets purported. Part of that is because that, for these outlets (common offenders including Slate and its ilk), any amount of backlash or derision, or frankly, anything less than glowing praise is "racism". And now that the word "racism" is starting to lose power, they've moved on to "wh…
It's probably hard for any of us to know the actual ratios, because only a filtered version of what's out there penetrates our bubbles. I think with hot-button topics like this there's usually a race-to-the-bottom spiral of reaction and counter-reaction, with each side being fed the dumbest or most offensive arguments from the other side and reacting to them; then the other side sees a (likewise filtered for stupidit…
Exactly. This is why I phrase observations from my own point of view and avoid implying a broad category like Republican/liberal/etc when I criticize some opinion that has a significant presence in my visible universe.
Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count
#280This seems rather user-hostile. The downvote count is useful for identifying videos that aren't what they claim to be. And how about DIY videos that give terrible advice? A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not.
Honestly, having dislike buttons always seemed _extremely_ user-hostile to me. You can get a lot of the same signals a "dislike" gives by just looking at the likes-to-views ratio, without introducing a method of negative feedback on what is often a largely creative endeavor that people put a lot of work into.
Comments on YouTube are bad enough. If you want to tell a video creator their work sucks, comments still work fine.