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Oh the irony. The LUCA app has been co-initiated and financed by Smudo [0], a famous German rapper. He was a supporter of Metallica suing Napster back in 2000 for copyright violation [1]. [0] https://www.chip.de/news/Kontaktverfolgung-mit-Luca-App-von-... [1] https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Smudo-vs-Napster-Da-...
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Is taking someone's code, be it small, and deliberately removing the attribution; an error?
Likely. Why is everyone acting like this is some high conspiracy or even blaming the entire project - this was probably some lazy dev that didn't want to deal with the hassle of including the licence and just copy pasted the class. I used to do this when I was learning to code, I often reimplemented stuff already available for learning and would just copy paste large chunks. I didn't publish any work back then and I…
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Is taking someone's code, be it small, and deliberately removing the attribution; an error?
Likely. Why is everyone acting like this is some high conspiracy or even blaming the entire project - this was probably some lazy dev that didn't want to deal with the hassle of including the licence and just copy pasted the class. I used to do this when I was learning to code, I often reimplemented stuff already available for learning and would just copy paste large chunks. I didn't publish any work back then and I…
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I highly doubt it as this is about a commercial app infringing on the copyright of a small open source developer. They will only send letters to people who cannot defend themselves.
No, they also like to do that with large companies. A few hundred € damage is too low for most companies to care much about it. If the open source developer hires a lawyer I'm sure they'd be happy to make them some money. I wouldn't be surprised if they already got contacted. There are a lot of German lawyers out there looking for "victims" to sue on their behalf.
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Is taking someone's code, be it small, and deliberately removing the attribution; an error?
Likely. Why is everyone acting like this is some high conspiracy or even blaming the entire project - this was probably some lazy dev that didn't want to deal with the hassle of including the licence and just copy pasted the class. I used to do this when I was learning to code, I often reimplemented stuff already available for learning and would just copy paste large chunks. I didn't publish any work back then and I…
Because everyone here is a coder and puts a lot of effort into their work, and doesn't want it get stolen.
We put a lot of effort into the Open Source projects we publish. Some of us are very generous and publish things to the public domain, but most of us at least want attribution for our work.
If you copy & paste code, strip the license, claim it's your code, and sell it for money, we consider you the scum of the earth. That's just not something that decent people do.
It could be an error; a junior dev may not know that just copy/pasting code from google search results is generally not allowed. But it's really something that everyone in our profession should know.
Just like a musician is expected to know that they need clearance for samples, or journalists know they need permission for publishing a photo, a programmer is expected to know that they need a license for reusing other people's code.
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You might be getting closer but someone who is just barely making ends meet could be ruined by that, where someone with obscene wealth can lose even 10% and still buy a yacht minutes later.
This is just saying that rich people are rich. Someone with obscene wealth can be imprisoned and still buy a yacht - even incarceration has a much greater impact on a poor person. As such, I'd rather fine them in proportion to their wealth.
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Likely. Why is everyone acting like this is some high conspiracy or even blaming the entire project - this was probably some lazy dev that didn't want to deal with the hassle of including the licence and just copy pasted the class. I used to do this when I was learning to code, I often reimplemented stuff already available for learning and would just copy paste large chunks. I didn't publish any work back then and I…
I also don't get where the outrage is coming from. Some mailinglist?
Their marketing comes with weird "trust us" vibe and the German tech scene went through these conversations already with the concept of the official app.
Add to that their attempts at transparency which are often a little too late and vague, and you have internet outrage. (With this release for example people were expecting to see server-side code, not that of the Android app everybody could already find in the apk).
Oh the irony. The LUCA app has been co-initiated and financed by Smudo [0], a famous German rapper. He was a supporter of Metallica suing Napster back in 2000 for copyright violation [1]. [0] https://www.chip.de/news/Kontaktverfolgung-mit-Luca-App-von-... [1] https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Smudo-vs-Napster-Da-...
> a famous German rapper I can understand in the abstract that of course you could rap in German, but it's quite another to encounter evidence of this in the wild so to speak. Having investigated further, I must say it's probably unfair against Gemany to not include the adjective old in the above statement, as Smudo (or at least the group he's in) is of early 90's vintage.
Depending on what you consider "in the wild" but German rap is very popular in Germany and other German-speaking countries. People from Germany usually don't rap in English or French. Smudo is an old school, but are quite a bit of rapper that are popular right now, like Capital Bra, Apache 207, Samra, Lea, Mero, Loredana, Bushido, Sido, Olexesh, Kollegah, Farid Bang, RAF Camora, ... just on top of my head.
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You might be getting closer but someone who is just barely making ends meet could be ruined by that, where someone with obscene wealth can lose even 10% and still buy a yacht minutes later.
One could always establish a minimum-living income that was immune to fines based on ratio of income, or consider specific expenditures to be protected from the calculation (e.g. rent or cost of travel to work). However, I can see how that could eventually lead to the truism becoming "If the penalty for a crime is an income-ratio fine, then that law only exists for the middle class, and not for the lower or upper cla…
Details might need tweaking, but a version of this could really work.