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Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Thanks for that input. My AP AC Lite has been absolutely rock solid so I wouldn't want reduced reliability; it's the reason I went with Unifi in the first place. Not that it matters; no chance I'll be going with Unifi in the future.

I was on the fence about buying some ubiquiti stuff. Now there's little chance. Do you have any recommendations for competing products?

For what products/environment/usecase?

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Try a used WRT1200AC, it has an extremely powerful ARM processor, and is super stable. I'm getting >500Mbit over 5GHz on a 2x2 antenna setup.

WRT1200AC. the worst experience i have ever had with a router. the moment i plugged in my NAS the whole thing froze and had to be force rebooted. every 3-6 hours the wifi just died and had to be again force rebooted. will not touch linksys again. they're a consumer brand, and my requirements are clearly SMB. imo their best product was the WRT54GL.

Was that running the original Firmware, or OpenWRT? In my experience, all vendor firmwares are to be regarded just as "proof-of-electrical-functioning", to be replaced with a OpenWRT running a recent kernel. Similar to how to you reinstall/upgrade a new laptop on the second boot fresh out the box.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…

My mother got a new laptop, and at some point I got remote access to help her get a few things set up (password manager/ad-blocker/backups/etc). I was really amazed at what her Facebook feed looks like. Actual Facebook advertisements for literal scams. 'Michelle Obama's investment tips' for some bitcoin platform. 'Patagonia Outlet' with items at 25% of the cost, at domains like patagonia-outlet.shjss72828.sub.domain.…

So what your saying is Facebook is a grocery store checkout?

Glad I deleted mine in 2010.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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This is on the hosted interface, right? I can sorta understand that, especially when the ads are for their own gear. But if I start seeing ads in my locally installed copy of Unifi, this will be a problem.

I just got this ad on the unifi Controller hosted on my own server. Not happy about this.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…

At this point I'm just generally not okay with being marketed to against my will. Especially in places that have absolutely literally nothing to do with spending money — like, you know, every single news website and every single social media service. If I want to buy something, and if I don't know exactly what, I'd like an unbiased list of things in that category to choose from. And when I don't want to buy anything…

So who pays for what you're consuming?

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…

It's certainly how I feel. I see virtually no advertising at all.

I use ad blockers.

Pay for YouTube premium. Use a sponsorship skip extension.

Only watch ad-free TV / streaming.

Pay for Spotify.

Use tweetdeck for Twitter.

Don't use Instagram or Facebook.

I certainly don't listen to the radio.

Where else can I possibly see an ad? A billboard? That's easy to ignore.

Imo it's all worth it.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…

Advertising is the most toxic virus ruining everything it touches. TV, then Cable TV, radio, usenet, on and on. Can anything survive the destructive ravage of ads? In my dream world, all forms of push advertising would be illegal, full stop. Meanwhile, I'll put whatever effort it takes to block everything.

Advertising is only able to exist when there's centralized entity controlling the presentation of the content. TV and radio are good examples — your receiver simply plays whatever is on air, and has no idea what's in there. Social media services like Facebook strive to control the experience end-to-end precisely because of that too, and that's the reason why public APIs for Facebook and Instagram got reduced from "enough to build a third-party client" to "you can post, getting any info for the current user requires a manual review, and you can't do anything else".

Contrast this with email and phone, the only successful federated systems. Spam is illegal in some countries, and there's a concerted effort by everyone to fight it.

When no one controls the whole experience end-to-end, there is simply no technical possibility to expose you to something against your will. This is why decentralized social media is the future. I just can't see how Facebook could survive much longer unless there's a drastic change of some sort.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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At this point I'm just generally not okay with being marketed to against my will. Especially in places that have absolutely literally nothing to do with spending money — like, you know, every single news website and every single social media service. If I want to buy something, and if I don't know exactly what, I'd like an unbiased list of things in that category to choose from. And when I don't want to buy anything…

So who pays for what you're consuming?

There is no requirement, ethically, morally, or legally to look at ads.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…

This is not that simple, unfortunately. Advertising in itself is not bad. Why informing about a good product is something wrong? How we would have Tesla or iPhones, etc. without advertising. Nobody would know about all of those. But something went wrong at some point. Similarly with options - options were a great way farmers could offload risk to the products buyers, who, in exchange could get better prices. But when…

You picked two terrible examples. I first heard about the iphone via word of mouth as a friend had one and was showing it off at the bar.

I hear about new ones by word of mouth from collegues (from people who go out of their way to watch product releases on the apple away day or whatever it is). I hear about new gadgets by paying for someone to go to CES and look at what's new.

Tesla, and starlink, again is word of mouth, or deliberatly seeking out information on it (by visiting tesla.com for example).

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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At this point I'm just generally not okay with being marketed to against my will. Especially in places that have absolutely literally nothing to do with spending money — like, you know, every single news website and every single social media service. If I want to buy something, and if I don't know exactly what, I'd like an unbiased list of things in that category to choose from. And when I don't want to buy anything…

So who pays for what you're consuming?

That's not my concern, neither is it my responsibility to make sure whoever the website belongs to gets paid. Paywall it for all I care. Implicit contracts aren't a thing.
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