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Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by anyfoo »

jonpurdy wrote: post #49
andremedeiros wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The funny thing is that I have a UDMP on the way, because one of my APs died and I figured it was time to upgrade the network a bit, but now I'm refusing delivery and sending it back for a full refund.

I was considering replacing my AP AC Lite with whatever 6E equivalent comes out when 6E is approved. I considered picking up a NanoHD for the extra MIMO speeds, but in the meantime I keep seeing problems with reliability, the 6.x Unifi version, UDM needing to be rebooted, etc. Even if Ubiquiti was as good as it was pre-2019, if they pulled this advertising stunt then I'd not consider upgrading. There's now no chance…

My nanoHD reboots frequently with current firmware. Sometimes it needs readoption, sometimes a manual reset to be readopted. The AP AC Pro seems less affected.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by jonpurdy »

anyfoo wrote: post #51
jonpurdy wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was considering replacing my AP AC Lite with whatever 6E equivalent comes out when 6E is approved. I considered picking up a NanoHD for the extra MIMO speeds, but in the meantime I keep seeing problems with reliability, the 6.x Unifi version, UDM needing to be rebooted, etc. Even if Ubiquiti was as good as it was pre-2019, if they pulled this advertising stunt then I'd not consider upgrading. There's now no chance…

My nanoHD reboots frequently with current firmware. Sometimes it needs readoption, sometimes a manual reset to be readopted. The AP AC Pro seems less affected.

Thanks for that input. My AP AC Lite has been absolutely rock solid so I wouldn't want reduced reliability; it's the reason I went with Unifi in the first place. Not that it matters; no chance I'll be going with Unifi in the future.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by worldmerge »

kogir wrote: post #47

Ubiquiti has really fallen far. The 5.x series of controller with the AP AC (S)HD was great, but everything since has been hot garbage. The 6.x series of controllers is still basically a public beta and riddled with bugs. The newer MediaTek based APs have constant problems with client device compatibility, and can’t even reliably support DHCP on the newest official firmware and controller versions (or any of the last…

Do you have any brands you would recommended for home use for "prosumers"?

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by anyfoo »

jonpurdy wrote: post #52
anyfoo wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My nanoHD reboots frequently with current firmware. Sometimes it needs readoption, sometimes a manual reset to be readopted. The AP AC Pro seems less affected.

Thanks for that input. My AP AC Lite has been absolutely rock solid so I wouldn't want reduced reliability; it's the reason I went with Unifi in the first place. Not that it matters; no chance I'll be going with Unifi in the future.

Yeah, and thanks to your comment it actually got me thinking that I can (at least temporarily) mitigate my current situation by taking the nanoHD out of the loop entirely, as I do have another spare AP AC Pro in my closet. I also got the nanoHD because of extra MIMO speed (among other things, it's feeding my home office setup wirelessly), but the egregious loss in stability is not worth it.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by andremedeiros »

nodesocket wrote: post #48
errantmind wrote: post #8

One of the reasons I have used Ubiquiti over the last few years is their product quality over other networking hardware. The inclusion of ads leads me to revisit those assumptions before my next purchase. Ads, even if self-promotion, are a bellwether for a company being desperate or greedy, neither of which bodes well for their long-term product quality, usually because it indicates sales people are making the decisi…

Technically it's an advertisement for their own product. I have around $1,500 worth of various routers, switches, and cameras from Ubiquiti in my house and don't really mind. Agreed, the "ad" is very large and there should be a way to close it and never show again (cookie or local storage). However I think this HN title is misleading (clickbait and outrage driven) as they are not making ad revenue as one would infer.

How is pegging and selling the successor to what I have not making ad revenue? The difference is that they’re not selling pixels for money, they’re trading pixels for sales.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by xvf22 »

gregoryl wrote: post #35
crocsarecool wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We upgraded to Ubiquiti a few months ago. I was so impressed by the hardware for the price. The dream machine firewall had such a good interface compared to more expensive firewalls I’ve used in the past. I’ve been very pleased so far, but this and another article have me worried they’re going downhill.

As a flip side experience, I have a dream machine too; it ignored my auto update settings and updated itself anyway, there's no way to roll back, and it now regularly stops responding, has high packet loss over wifi and supports response was effectively "go jump". Very unhappy.

I have all aps and controller blocked from the internet for that very reason. Don't tell me when to update heh. Really sucks about not being able to roll things back.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by inetknght »

owl57 wrote: post #44
andremedeiros wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it misleading? Can you explain to me what the difference between "promoting an update to their own product" and an ad? This is an ad, pure and simple. They're pushing a product they know I don't own with a clear call to action, and without a way for me to remove it or disable it.

Ad is a broad term, this confuses people. This shit is definitely worse than ads on the box, but it also definitely isn't the entire monstrosity we have come to assume when hearing about ads on web pages.

> Ad is a broad term

Yes.

> this confuses people

No.

> but it also definitely isn't the entire monstrosity we have come to assume when hearing about ads on web pages.

Slippery slope. I used to think of Ubiquiti as prosumer. Now it's definitely not.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

#59

Post by vvanders »

justinjlynn wrote: post #50
kogir wrote: post #47

Ubiquiti has really fallen far. The 5.x series of controller with the AP AC (S)HD was great, but everything since has been hot garbage. The 6.x series of controllers is still basically a public beta and riddled with bugs. The newer MediaTek based APs have constant problems with client device compatibility, and can’t even reliably support DHCP on the newest official firmware and controller versions (or any of the last…

It's really sad. I used to recommend UniFi and their other hardware without a second's hesitation to all of my friends and the software and hardware quality control has just gone so far down hill. Now they're putting ads and privacy violating code in the admin user interface? What a complete disregard for user security and privacy in one of the most important places for it. Ugh. Add that to their GPL violations ( htt…

Yeah it's a pretty big bummer. I used to recommend their stuff a lot and I don't know if I'll be able to do that from now on.

It's not like their hardware is cheap, I'd much rather pay a monthly subscription than be served ads.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

#60

Post by comboy »

kogir wrote: post #47

Ubiquiti has really fallen far. The 5.x series of controller with the AP AC (S)HD was great, but everything since has been hot garbage. The 6.x series of controllers is still basically a public beta and riddled with bugs. The newer MediaTek based APs have constant problems with client device compatibility, and can’t even reliably support DHCP on the newest official firmware and controller versions (or any of the last…

I second that. Despite investing in their infrastructure and recommending to friends (so basically being biased to like it) they just don't seem to care anymore.

I'm waiting for some company to take their place. And I don't see how making router software open source for a company that is selling hardware is not a win.

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