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Amazon security staff reported its own tweets as “suspicious,” fearing hack

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Post by wkavey »

deeblering4 wrote: post #231
whoknew1122 wrote: post #115

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At Amazon you're encouraged (and expected) to escalate early and escalate often. Amazon security did its job very well. >"The real security incident here is how did the intercept learn of that ticket as that should really be classified." Looks like someone from the security or PR departments took a picture of the ticket with their cellphone and sent them to the reporter. Security tickets are immediately encrypted and…

> At Amazon you're encouraged (and expected) to escalate early and escalate often One of the many reasons I’d never want to work there

Hahaha I'm sure most companies wouldn't want you either. If my code is broken I want to know ASAP.

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Post by mplewis »

bredren wrote: post #20

We had a driver pour out a bottle of pee directly onto the street in front of our place from his open driver’s side van window on Saturday afternoon. My wife got a photo and then immediately after they delivered packages and left I went and took a photo because I couldn’t believe it. I had not heard about the controversy until then, but my wife had been following it. I read these tweets and I also didn’t believe they…

Next time, mind your own business.

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Post by brown9-2 »

marcusverus wrote: post #234
brown9-2 wrote: post #185

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Amazon is continuing to hire and grow in NYC, even without HQ2 and the special tax breaks: https://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-continues-expansion-in-new-...

Amazon is adding ~2,000 jobs. That's I understand the aversion to granting tax breaks to big companies, but IMO the whole debacle just looks like NYC politicians are more interested in maintaining their political bona fides, more interested in vague notions about Amazon's 'fair share' than they are in the long term well being of the local economy.

It’s more than 2000:

> The new tech and corporate jobs add to Amazon's announcement in December that it would hire 1,500 more New York workers

Let’s see how many workers they’ve added in NYC a few years from now. I bet it ends up close to that 25k number anyway.

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Post by tclancy »

andonisus wrote: post #237
tclancy wrote: post #193

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I am so confused by the set of responses based on the idea "Well, lots of other people have awful working conditions, why are we picking on this particular billion dollar corporation?"

I honestly don't believe that choosing to pee in a bottle while driving for delivery constitutes "awful working conditions".

Do you do this on a regular basis?

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Post by tclancy »

d1zzy wrote: post #248
z3c0 wrote: post #205

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It's very much "whataboutism". Best case, it's tonedeaf and overly-dismissive. Worst case, it's a deliberate distraction. I try to follow Hanlon's Razor, so I'll go with the best case and just assume these people are unempathtic contrarians, instead of corporate shills.

Because the discussion is only focused on Amazon. If instead all such articles and complains would be "Amazon, among many other companies, give workers incentives to pee in bottles" then I would pay a lot more attention to it. Because when you say " does " which is obviously to me not unique to that company then your message sounds like meant to provoke a certain feeling against a certain company, my "manipulation" a…

That’s literally whataboutism. Why do we need to identify every company that does this rather than calling out the ones we know?

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Post by andonisus »

tclancy wrote: post #254
andonisus wrote: post #237

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I honestly don't believe that choosing to pee in a bottle while driving for delivery constitutes "awful working conditions".

Do you do this on a regular basis?

I do not, but I would not have a problem doing it.

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Post by whoknew1122 »

wkavey wrote: post #251
deeblering4 wrote: post #231

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> At Amazon you're encouraged (and expected) to escalate early and escalate often One of the many reasons I’d never want to work there

Hahaha I'm sure most companies wouldn't want you either. If my code is broken I want to know ASAP.

At least takes like the theirs is why people in cybersecurity can easily find jobs.

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Post by strken »

tclancy wrote: post #254
andonisus wrote: post #237

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I honestly don't believe that choosing to pee in a bottle while driving for delivery constitutes "awful working conditions".

Do you do this on a regular basis?

I've done it before on a long drive under urgent non-work-related time constraints, and while recovering from a broken leg. It's not the worst thing in the world, although finding a tree or a public toilet is preferable, and it's probably not safe while driving.

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Post by ksm1717 »

Rule35 wrote: post #220
rideontime wrote: post #194

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If you're wondering why this is getting buried, educate yourself on how Amazon "contracting" works. It's just a scheme to cut costs and shift all responsibility elsewhere.

It's getting buried because people downvote what they can't argue. Amazon isn't doing anything different than any other company, or anything that has been a problem before now. Unionists are lying, conflating contractors and employees, and everyone here is buying it - probably because it fits an existing narrative. I'm being told, by privileged SF types, that I need to educate myself, when they've apparently never wo…

People also downvote what they find stupid, boss. I made in a bottle in a car before; I wouldn’t do it again for $4 or whatever. Guess I don’t have what it takes to do contract work.

Re: Amazon security staff reported its own tweets as “suspicious,” fearing hack

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Post by Rule35 »

ksm1717 wrote: post #259
Rule35 wrote: post #220

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It's getting buried because people downvote what they can't argue. Amazon isn't doing anything different than any other company, or anything that has been a problem before now. Unionists are lying, conflating contractors and employees, and everyone here is buying it - probably because it fits an existing narrative. I'm being told, by privileged SF types, that I need to educate myself, when they've apparently never wo…

People also downvote what they find stupid, boss. I made in a bottle in a car before; I wouldn’t do it again for $4 or whatever. Guess I don’t have what it takes to do contract work.

> Guess I don’t have what it takes to do contract work.

No, that's what some rich guy would say. Oh, I wouldn't do "some mildly distasteful thing" for money, I guess I have high standards, haha. No, you wouldn't last that long. I doubt you'd make it through the first early morning. If you did you'd learn that pissing in a bottle isn't a problem at all compared to hours out of your life.

The adults you're talking about, denigrating because they aren't as discerning as you, are making this decision for themselves. They'd rather make wee-wee uncomfortably and see their family again sooner. For them that $4, or $15, matters more than it does for you.

> People also downvote what they find stupid

Also, stupid people vote. So ... proposition undecided.

> boss.

Somehow I don't think you've ever non-ironically called anyone that.

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