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A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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Not when the system requires energy equivalent to many Jupiters. To create a useful system you'd need to consume a Sun-sized star of mass on a monthly basis. We aren't there and honestly I don't see us ever being there.

No wonder Galactus is so hungry.

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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Since we have never been visited by aliens, or witnessed time travel, these things must not be possible. It they were, there would be proof and it would be documented. It's as simple as that.

> Since we have never been visited by aliens This is a rather large assertion to make.

So is the "if it's possible, they certainly would have done it to visit us" leap of (non)logic.

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the year 2020 taught me anything, it's that an alarmingly large number of people can all as a group reject something that's scientifically proven.

Science is (a lot less) powerful than religion. Indoctrination taken to religious levels, in a confined and controlled environment, would be more than enough to propagate programming for hundreds if not thousands of years.

So we design cult missiles and send that at other star systems, sounds like a pretty hostile weapon.

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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What is impossible in 2D (e.g. escaping from inside a circle) is possible and trivial in 3D. Is moving faster than speed of light a limitation that can be overcome in a higher dimension? Does it really require a lot of energy or is that only so under certain circumstances? There is a lot we still don't know

Perhaps but that doesn't bring one side of a circle closer to the other, or help you get out faster. Why would being able to move through higher dimensions help you travel faster through the 3 we're familiar with?

Viewing a 2D space from a higher dimension can make it obvious that the 2D space is not a flat plane, but is curved and warped. Some pairs of points in the 2D space may be closer together in 3D space than they appear while confined to the 2D space.

There is a 3D/4D equivalent, but it can't be visualized, and it's unknown whether it has any possible physical meaning.

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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Nope. Literally any method of getting from A to B faster than light would, has a causality paradox. it does not matter if you cover the miles between FTL, or pop out of a hypothetical wormhole gate: If you end up outside of your own light cone, no matter how, there's a causality paradox.

> Literally any method of getting from A to B faster than light would, has a causality paradox. Pretty much every explanation I've seen as to why this would ostensibly be so would - when applied consistently - consider the average thunderstorm to be full of causality violations because you can see the lightning before you can hear it. It shouldn't matter how long it takes me to go from Point A to Point B. As long as…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyonic_antitelephone

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

#106

Since we have never been visited by aliens, or witnessed time travel, these things must not be possible. It they were, there would be proof and it would be documented. It's as simple as that.

If the greys figured out how to achieve FTL, then they probably also have the means to be covert as well - assuming passive observation is their goal in the first place.

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. Literally any method of getting from A to B faster than light would, has a causality paradox. it does not matter if you cover the miles between FTL, or pop out of a hypothetical wormhole gate: If you end up outside of your own light cone, no matter how, there's a causality paradox.

> Literally any method of getting from A to B faster than light would, has a causality paradox. Pretty much every explanation I've seen as to why this would ostensibly be so would - when applied consistently - consider the average thunderstorm to be full of causality violations because you can see the lightning before you can hear it. It shouldn't matter how long it takes me to go from Point A to Point B. As long as…

Here's the problem: Event A at location X at time T1 causes event B at location Y at time T2 > T1. If I can travel FTL, I can find a frame of reference where T2 before the cause. This leaves a few possibilities, and they're all bad:

- There is no real cause and effect.

- Cause and effect are real, but effects can come before causes.

- The laws of physics are not the same in all frames of reference.

Our current understanding/belief is that some things really do cause other things, that causes always precede effects, and that the laws of physics are the same in all frames of reference.

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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post #10

Not when the system requires energy equivalent to many Jupiters. To create a useful system you'd need to consume a Sun-sized star of mass on a monthly basis. We aren't there and honestly I don't see us ever being there.

Why do you need that much energy? The article claims that the proposed mechanism could lower the energy requirements by 60 orders of magnitude: reasonable to have a grid connected prototype. I’m as skeptical about this as the next person, but the universe doesn’t make its rules based on my intuition.

https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2651

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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My feeling is that interstellar travel will be slow and require many generations of travelers -- or not done by human beings at all.

I don't think humans themselves will travel between stars. If we find habitable planets, we'll send probes with bioreactors that can then be fed a stream of individuals' DNA to populate the planet.

This is a sure way to get competing species that can one day show up to exterminate you.

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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post #59

What is impossible in 2D (e.g. escaping from inside a circle) is possible and trivial in 3D. Is moving faster than speed of light a limitation that can be overcome in a higher dimension? Does it really require a lot of energy or is that only so under certain circumstances? There is a lot we still don't know

If a 2d being escaped their 2d space would the universe disappear from their point of view?

In the 90s, there was a sci fi book in my elementary school library about this very subject. I swore it was by William Shatner (it wasn't), and I had the name slightly wrong, so I hadn't been able to find it again until tonight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Reversed_Himself

This book covers all sorts of situations about objects in fewer and additional dimensions.

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