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A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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What is impossible in 2D (e.g. escaping from inside a circle) is possible and trivial in 3D. Is moving faster than speed of light a limitation that can be overcome in a higher dimension? Does it really require a lot of energy or is that only so under certain circumstances? There is a lot we still don't know

If a 2d being escaped their 2d space would the universe disappear from their point of view?

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather predict 3) A spaceship large enough and self-sufficient enough that many generations of society can live and die on the spaceship at sub-light speeds. Not the flashy sci-fi solution, but the most likely.

Oh man, take it from someone who has been in the Navy: that’ll have to be one gigantic and well-functioning spaceship.

Hell is other people. Which also explains why hibernation or some other kind of suspended animation also frequently appears in SF stories multi-generation-spanning ships.

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather predict 3) A spaceship large enough and self-sufficient enough that many generations of society can live and die on the spaceship at sub-light speeds. Not the flashy sci-fi solution, but the most likely.

Oh man, take it from someone who has been in the Navy: that’ll have to be one gigantic and well-functioning spaceship.

There's no reason a space ship can not have dozens of km in radius. That's a small asteroid, what looks like the most obvious thing to repurpose into one.

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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How does this solve the causality paradox?

As far as I can see, it solves nothing. Instead, if this indeed travels faster than light this creates a very real causality paradox, instead of the mathematically correct but impossible variety we had before.

If people confirm those things enable FTL, I think we will see a lot of people trying to reevaluate the General Relativity.

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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post #59

What is impossible in 2D (e.g. escaping from inside a circle) is possible and trivial in 3D. Is moving faster than speed of light a limitation that can be overcome in a higher dimension? Does it really require a lot of energy or is that only so under certain circumstances? There is a lot we still don't know

The 3d equivalent of a circle is a sphere, which is also impossible to escape from in 3d.

justinclift is right. The goal is to try to escape from a circle which is still a circle in 3D space. A 2D being may not be aware of the third dimension and might think it's impossible to escape it. Yet it is possible if they find a way to travel in the third dimension.

This is just an analogy anyway. My main point is, or what I hope science can figure out is whether the speed of light is a true limitation of reality or just a limitation of our own perception/understanding

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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post #59

What is impossible in 2D (e.g. escaping from inside a circle) is possible and trivial in 3D. Is moving faster than speed of light a limitation that can be overcome in a higher dimension? Does it really require a lot of energy or is that only so under certain circumstances? There is a lot we still don't know

If a 2d being escaped their 2d space would the universe disappear from their point of view?

They might discover there are other previously invisible 2D worlds (i.e. planes) in existence right next to theirs ;)

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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Instead of negative energy this warp drive idea requires 10^30 more energy than the matter contained in Jupiter, so we aren't quite there ;-). The additional issue is whether something going faster than the speed of light violates causality, like a warp drive. I've never understood how to reconcile causality with the fact of so called 'spooky interaction at a distance'. If it's faster than the speed of light, and you…

The wavefunction is nonlocal. But if it's a complete descriptions of reality, it still provides no way to communicate FTL, and there really is baked-in randomness. This is because local measurement outcomes on half an entangled pair, which necessarily use macroscopic, local apparatuses, can never be predicted to arbitrary accuracy in advance (unless entangled partner is local too). You will see random outcomes locally, even though the distant entangled partner's outcomes will be perfectly correlated upon classically going and looking at the distant outcomes. If the WF is not complete, then there is a deterministic, FTL underlying theory, which may or may not allow FTL signaling in spacetime. Those are the only ways to satisfy Bell's results with his modest assumptions. Those assumptions are sidestepped in things like MWI and superdeterminism.

(Assuming the same assumptions as the Bell tests)

(And assuming things like "measurement" and "macroscopic" have well defined meanings, which Bell had problems with too)

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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What is impossible in 2D (e.g. escaping from inside a circle) is possible and trivial in 3D. Is moving faster than speed of light a limitation that can be overcome in a higher dimension? Does it really require a lot of energy or is that only so under certain circumstances? There is a lot we still don't know

Perhaps but that doesn't bring one side of a circle closer to the other, or help you get out faster.

Why would being able to move through higher dimensions help you travel faster through the 3 we're familiar with?

Re: A new model for faster-than-light travel that uses conventional physics

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My feeling is that interstellar travel will be slow and require many generations of travelers -- or not done by human beings at all.

Interstellar travel doesn't have to be slow for the travellers. You could get to Alpha Centauri and back to Earth in a day (at least as far as relativity is concerned), but for those who stayed on Earth, a decade would have passed. That's the twin paradox btw.

How many gs of acceleration would that take? Sure, you could accelerate your mass to a gamma of 6000 or so, and then back down, in half a day, and do it all again for the return trip, but would you still be alive at the end?
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