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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by sn_master »

throwawaybutwhy wrote: post #689

Fun facts: 1. The owner is Japanese 2. The operator is Taiwanese 3. The flag is Panamanian 4. The cargo is Chinese 5. The insurer is British 6. The crew is Indian 7. The canal is Egyptian and was built with forced labor by the French 8. The dredgers/salvage op managers are Dutch

9. The destination is the Netherlands (Rotterdam).

While we're at it, the 1956 Suez canal crisis marked the end of the traditional colonial powers when the USSR threatened to nuke London and Paris if they don't let Egypt regain control of the canal.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/yes-1956-suez-crisi...

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by rsj_hn »

VRay wrote: post #542
dragontamer wrote: post #508

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then how do you clean up 220,000 tons of debris? Turns out: the container ship __itself__ is the easiest way to move all of that debris out. And its already packed and loaded.

you just have to blow it up REALLY HARD Like that old Mythbusters episode where they blow up a car twice I think the Earth could use just ONE MORE nuclear crater..

If Elon Musk solves this with some combination of space gadgetry and boring machines, we're going to have to declare him Earth Emperor.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by em-bee »

doublesocket wrote: post #235
em-bee wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

do you mean this case? https://www.mopo.de/hamburg/frachter-rammt-faehre-knapp-an-d... that was the very same ship EDIT: no, the incident needing 12 tugs was a different ship. see comment below.

And again a strong wind was blamed. Maybe there's a limit to how big these ships can be built?

the problem was the slow speed. i think even a small ship gets pushed by the wind at slow speeds. however a small ship can speed up faster, and it doesn't cause as much damage if it does crash into something.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by sn_master »

Denvercoder9 wrote: post #505
float4 wrote: post #446

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dredging for that project was done by a Belgian and a Dutch company, and I don't think they left their ships and equipment there afterwards.

That Dutch company has now been called in to fix this, though.

That company is the same one that raised the Kursk!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQJ6IMREvz8

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by Sebb767 »

mark_mart wrote: post #619
barbegal wrote: post #291

It will be weeks before this ship is free. Fuel and oil can be pumped out but that only makes up a fraction of the total weight of the vessel. Containers can be unloaded but again the lightest will be at the top so a significant number will need to be removed to make a big enough difference. And unloading them will be a slow process. You can maybe unload a few per hour with helicopters. There doesn't exist any infras…

Should we also count the effort needed to put these containers back to vessel? Same for fuel.

No. The blockage is the problem; anything on that ship is basically irrelevant from an economical perspective. Especially when we're talking about weeks of downtime.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by sn_master »

BrianOnHN wrote: post #250
damontal wrote: post #188

Job interview question: how many helicopters would it take to lift it?

15,000 Chinooks. Good luck finding that many, though.

How about the Skycrane?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDQrUiCd61U

Or Volvo trucks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3yw4Qp8bX4

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by bergie »

neither_color wrote: post #590
nabla9 wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lloyd's List estimated that every day Suez is closed costs US$9 billion ($400 million per hour). If it could be done technically and open up the canal, it would be cheaper for insurance companies to buy the ship, it's cargo, buy all nearby property and then blow the whole ship up.

With so many ships going through every day for decades it’s a wonder this never happened before.

We’ve had ships this big only for a few years.
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