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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by bigfudge »

Tenoke wrote: post #71
_the_inflator wrote: post #54

Looking at how stuck the ship is, this could also be a new terrorist vector to attack the channel via such a „derailed“ ship.

It does legitimately seem like you can do tremendous damage by derailing a few ships in the right spots. Bringing bombs or other small ships or something else seems doable for a terrorist organization on the face of it.

This is true more generally. When I lived in London and the IRA campaign was going on I never understood why they didn't just set fire to a few stolen vans on Euston road/City road/Waterloo bridge every morning rather than actually killing people. Would have been more effective.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by RantyDave »

tomc1985 wrote: post #129
blhack wrote: post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

The pictures I've seen completely hide the ship's bulbous bow. It juts out seemingly like 50 feet from the front of the bow that you can see. It looks like all of that is wedged in the sand

Bingo. It's long, fat, and like the pharaohs ... buried in Egypt.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by tiborsaas »

adflux wrote: post #155
blhack wrote: post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

Love the armchair engineers who think they're gonna solve this better than billion dollar companies

We have the luxury of just throwing around ideas and not caring about the consequences (because nobody in power will read it). It's just fun to think about how you'd solve a problem like this.

For example I'd try to attach a two Raptor engines to the ship and blow it back to the water :)

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by neartheplain »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #68

Comedy option, what wacky cold war era aircraft do we have capable of lifting massive loads like a container ship? Perhaps an enormous fleet of Chinook helicopters could take it straight up?

Better Cold War option:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Plowshare

The ship’s a total loss, but Egypt also gets a new lake!

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by topspin »

prox wrote: post #184
adflux wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Love the armchair engineers who think they're gonna solve this better than billion dollar companies

If this was space engineers I would build a crane drone and offload it unto nearby ships. Or build giant trucks to help the ship get unstuck. Or just tow it outside the environment...

Where is Elon when you need him?

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by moritonal »

Tenoke wrote: post #71
_the_inflator wrote: post #54

Looking at how stuck the ship is, this could also be a new terrorist vector to attack the channel via such a „derailed“ ship.

It does legitimately seem like you can do tremendous damage by derailing a few ships in the right spots. Bringing bombs or other small ships or something else seems doable for a terrorist organization on the face of it.

Shh! The modern world is based on the fact a few really mad stupid people don't realise how brittle the hacks we built society on are.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by ortusdux »

atdt wrote: post #174
adflux wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Love the armchair engineers who think they're gonna solve this better than billion dollar companies

It's a way of thinking out loud and providing an opening for someone more knowledgeable to explain what is being overlooked. It makes for interesting threads.

Cunningham's Law: "The best way to get the right answer on the Internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by undefined1 »

adflux wrote: post #155
blhack wrote: post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

Love the armchair engineers who think they're gonna solve this better than billion dollar companies

but did they try turning it off and on again?

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by blhack »

Denvercoder9 wrote: post #180
anigbrowl wrote: post #118

Needs a counter for ongoing cost. An experienced military logistics person I know estimated yesterday that the bill for this is up to about $40 billion already.

That might be the total value of impacted shipping, but nobody is going to get a $40 billion bill for this.

Those two guys on excavators are gonna be RICH!
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