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Re: RIP Google Reader

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post #154

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... so everything consolidated in G+?

I still remember being swept away by Google Wave. Such a cool idea at the time, I thought. That was such a good idea compared to Google Plus. Your content, your comments, just aggregated. They could have pulled it off, too, I am sure. They just didn't want to.

Maybe I'm just remembering poorly, but Wave seemed super buggy and laggy to me at the time.

Re: RIP Google Reader

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post #114

Those of you who don’t understand why people were attached to Reader: Please keep in mind that it’s generally not the death of the tool that we lament after all these years. It is the destruction of our communities there that we’re still sad about. Imagine your favorite coffee shop, bar, church or social club ceased to be. You’d still see some of the previous members at other places, but the community as it existed i…

I was an outer-circle member of the community of people who did the Google Reader shutdown protest in DC in 2011: https://dcist.com/story/11/10/26/click-click-google-reader-p...

It really did create a community atmosphere that I've only seen at cocktail/dinner parties, where everyone knows someone but you meet new friends-of-friends and maybe become friends yourselves.

Re: RIP Google Reader

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post #238

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This is the VC cycle in a nutshell: venture capital does some PoC, business/tech R&D, and when it fails (usually does!) the lessons are still available to others. It's no different even if the (defunct) startup has a patent: IP law doesn't really matter when the IP doesn't have any money behind it.

Vine lives in a glass jar on the mantlepiece.

What a curious comment - care to elaborate? (I'm thinking a USB drive with Vine's source code is actually on your mantelpiece?)

Re: RIP Google Reader

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The cherry on top is the complaint about how users only go to five sites anymore...by the very community of people who started the death-of-RSS myth because Google stopped providing the app they used.

Re: RIP Google Reader

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I still remember being swept away by Google Wave. Such a cool idea at the time, I thought. That was such a good idea compared to Google Plus. Your content, your comments, just aggregated. They could have pulled it off, too, I am sure. They just didn't want to.

Maybe I'm just remembering poorly, but Wave seemed super buggy and laggy to me at the time.

It was crappy but it's intention was good.

Re: RIP Google Reader

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post #255

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Google Keep is next. It is neat and simple, though I haven't been using it lately.

I really hope they don't kill it. Although, I never really recovered from the Red Wedding of Reader. However, I recently convinced myself to use Google Keep; it has a neat implementation of grabbing text from an image and works fairly well. I realise that I will be training the algorithms, and appending data to the already vast collection. It is a trade-off I am willing to accept. I have generally been using it to gr…

I have a sync script that fetches all my google Keep notes and saves as markdown.

I was using it to sync into Roam for a while, but now I have it syncing into my markdown folder.

My current note taker is iA Writer. On the go markdown authoring, syncs with dropbox.

Re: RIP Google Reader

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post #11

Whatever was said at the time, I’m convinced Google Reader was collateral damage from the Bay of Pigs Google Plus effort. It had social features (which I honestly never used) and anything social had to be G+. Still, I honestly don’t understand why this is the hill people want to die on, what they feel most betrayed about. Like I haven’t seen some people this upset since Firefly was canceled.

Collateral damage is an interesting way to put it. I've heard the internal story from people who worked at Google at the time, and it sounds like the rough sequence of events goes like this: 1. Google Reader is launched, built on internal Google technologies (the distributed database and filesystem technologies available at the time, like GFS). 2. Headcount is not allocated to Google Reader to do ongoing engineering…

As someone seeing org level decisions being interpreted very differently by different people, I am not sure how much weight we can give to this insiders representation- this sounds like what an Eng manager (who himself might not know the real reason) would tell their disgruntled engineers.

Also the real question is why google didn’t assign an Eng team for this product used by millions, not why products without engineers die..

Re: RIP Google Reader

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post #11

Whatever was said at the time, I’m convinced Google Reader was collateral damage from the Bay of Pigs Google Plus effort. It had social features (which I honestly never used) and anything social had to be G+. Still, I honestly don’t understand why this is the hill people want to die on, what they feel most betrayed about. Like I haven’t seen some people this upset since Firefly was canceled.

Because Google Reader was the social network for people who don't like talking about themselves but about things on the web that they find interesting, and nothing since has ever come close to it.

The social aspect is the part I missed most. It was a good rss reader, to be sure, but plenty others exist. But the surrounding conversation was strictly with people who I followed. I may be misremembering it a bit, but I recall that most of the comments I saw under any article were by people I knew, which was ideal.

I like reddit and this site enough to visit almost daily, and it's important to get opinions from strangers which is why I value these sites, but the signal / noise ratio is awful. Being able to see a list of news I've explicitly catered to myself _and_ commentary from people I explicitly care to hear from was excellent.

Then again the internet "crowd" was much different back then. It may just be an artifact of its own time by this point.

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