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Re: RIP Google Reader

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Post by vkou »

bluedays wrote: post #69
dbrereton wrote: post #58

As someone who was born too late for Google Reader, I genuinely don't understand why people bring it up every 5 minutes. There are 1000 feed reader apps that exist right now, some of which have the branding of "it's just like Google Reader", so what am I missing here?

Because before Google Reader was cancelled Google was known for not cancelling anything. Now they get rid of things left and right. It was basically the beginning of the end.

> Because before Google Reader was cancelled Google was known for not cancelling anything

Web Accelerator, Wave, Google Video immediately spring to mind, but there's a few dozen smaller services that were all cancelled before Reader was.

Re: RIP Google Reader

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Post by zaat »

nanoservices wrote: post #204
volongoto wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Keep, but there are already millions of apps that does what Keep is doing. I don't think there will be a huge vacuum.

I actually really like Microsoft ToDo. Your setup can be as simple as you want or as complex as you need it to be!

But Keep is much more than ToDo, it is more like a less capable OneNote (or, put differently, it is very much like the newer version of OneNote).

Re: RIP Google Reader

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Post by leajkinUnk »

cletus wrote: post #11

Whatever was said at the time, I’m convinced Google Reader was collateral damage from the Bay of Pigs Google Plus effort. It had social features (which I honestly never used) and anything social had to be G+. Still, I honestly don’t understand why this is the hill people want to die on, what they feel most betrayed about. Like I haven’t seen some people this upset since Firefly was canceled.

Collateral damage is an interesting way to put it. I've heard the internal story from people who worked at Google at the time, and it sounds like the rough sequence of events goes like this:

1. Google Reader is launched, built on internal Google technologies (the distributed database and filesystem technologies available at the time, like GFS).

2. Headcount is not allocated to Google Reader to do ongoing engineering work. Headcount is instead allocated to projects like Google+.

3. The technologies underneath Google Reader (like GFS) are shut down. Without the engineering headcount to migrate, Google Reader is shut down.

Google+ was reportedly shut down for the same reasons (but different technologies). The internal tech stack at Google is always changing, and projects without sufficient headcount for ongoing engineering will eventually get shut down. The timing of the Google Reader and Google+ shutdown reflect the timing of changes in Googles tech stack more than it reflects any strategic direction by Google.

[Edit: Just to be clear, this doesn't explain the reason why these projects get shut down. It just explains the timing.]

Re: RIP Google Reader

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Post by sco1 »

vmladenov wrote: post #119
basch wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unpopular retrospective opinion, but given how stagnant Reader was before its death, the boon of Reader Replacements to arrive on the scene after its demise was worth its disappearance. The race to be the replacement made a metric ton of competing products better.

Do you have a favorite? I have a Feedly account but I don’t use the site much, and the Reeder app added local subscriptions recently.

I've been happily using Inoreader since the plug was pulled on Google Reader

Re: RIP Google Reader

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Post by 45ure »

crucialfelix wrote: post #188
aasasd wrote: post #104

So basically, one can begin slapping together a competitor as soon as Google rolls out a service—because the service is likely to go the way of the Reader in a few years.

Google Keep is next. It is neat and simple, though I haven't been using it lately.

I really hope they don't kill it. Although, I never really recovered from the Red Wedding of Reader. However, I recently convinced myself to use Google Keep; it has a neat implementation of grabbing text from an image and works fairly well.

I realise that I will be training the algorithms, and appending data to the already vast collection. It is a trade-off I am willing to accept. I have generally been using it to grab text from labels for ingredients and other products to create my own notes.

Re: RIP Google Reader

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Post by rrdharan »

kevstev wrote: post #179
bayindirh wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because that thing was infinitely useful. I was able to read 100+ articles without burning out, got the only things that I wanted to see, filter what I didn't want and was able to track the most interesting sites. I've skimmed everything in 15 minutes, mark/star/whatever anything with unprecedented speed. It was the ultimate user-curated feed, without all the cruft of today's feed . It was mine, tailored for me, by m…

you make it sound like this functionality is now dead and you are grieving it. Feedly offers all of this, its what I migrated to after Google Reader.

Feedly is great!

Re: RIP Google Reader

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Post by spijdar »

jonny_eh wrote: post #226
brundolf wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like I better get started on my Stadia clone ;)

You'll also be competing with Amazon (Luna), Nvidia (Geforce Now), Microsoft (Xbox Game Pass), and Sony (Playstation Now). Plus other small players that are much farther along, like Shadow.

If you think about it, though none of these except Shadow are "small players naively competing with big business", it still kind of demonstrates the point. Google starts something that is ostensibly a good idea, demonstrates that there is some market, but flops the execution. I don't know what'll happen to Stadia, I'm hesitant to dismiss it just because "lol Google made another thing, surely they'll kill it in a year", but just skimming the news it does seem it'll go the way of Allo and Hangouts and Reader (And G+ ironically)...

Re: RIP Google Reader

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Post by PascLeRasc »

politelemon wrote: post #144
harha wrote: post #24

Let us also remember Inbox, haven’t been able to manage day through my calendar, tasks and email in one place as seamlessly since that one was sunset.

I am still holding out naive, idiotic hope that someone will build an Inbox replacement. And not the box-ticking feature-parity that they still haven't delivered on, but the actual intelligent workflows, while maintaining a clean uncluttered experience, that Inbox was so good at. I do understand though, that a lot of people who didn't "get" Inbox will not understand this sentiment either. But there are dozens of us!…

I think I’ve tried basically every email client out there since Inbox shut down and haven’t found a satisfying replacement. I’ve found Twobird to be the closest though.

Re: RIP Google Reader

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Post by [deleted] »

dbrereton wrote: post #58

As someone who was born too late for Google Reader, I genuinely don't understand why people bring it up every 5 minutes. There are 1000 feed reader apps that exist right now, some of which have the branding of "it's just like Google Reader", so what am I missing here?

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