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Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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How much longer would it take to go around Africa to Gibraltar?

8 days, but the bigger problem is that increases the expected sea states encountered by several levels. Huge container ships don't like that.

Can you expand as to why not/what "increases expected sea states encountered" means? Maybe an ELI5

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Re-floating operation has been temporarily suspended and will resume Thursday morning.

Can anybody speak as to why they are able to get the ship no longer stuck horizontal, but still need to drag it out the way it came? Why can't it just go forward on the path it was headed on?

Because it ran its front into ground, it's not just grounded. See front picture: https://mobile.twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1374725707738267...

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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I suspect it's not the use of the bomb that is the biggest concern. I would think someone with a bomb on some kind of bulk Hazmat carrier and the threat of blowing it up would shut down traffic for a lot longer. Nobody is going to want to get close to do anything about it. LNG or Oil are the two I can think of, but there's probably a lot of other bulk Hazmat carriers.

The major canals aren't around big population centers so blowing something like that up wouldn't make a huge impact. Also due to the structure of a canal (limited blast containment; most of a ship is above the surface) the actual damage would be limited.

I think you missed the point.

Someone hijacks a LNG carrier, parks it in the canal and says they have a bomb on the pressure vessel.

Regardless of what infrastructure it would damage or not, it will shut down shipping.

Who would be willing to get close to it to do anything about it? What do you do, stand off and launch a missile and definitely destroy it?

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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https://twitter.com/AgenciesLeth/status/1374836312860151808?... As of 2330 (GMT+2) M/V EVER GIVEN, no. 5 in the 23rd of March NB convoy remains #grounded in the #SuezCanal. Vessel no. 6, 7 & 8 will be assisted by tugs back to Suez anchorage area, clearing space for M/V EVER GIVEN to be towed out the same way as she entered once re-floated. https://t.co/ltXEyRZtqX Looks like it's going to take a while...

https://twitter.com/AgenciesLeth/status/1374864596192927746?...

"The #grounding of M/V EVER GIVEN in the #SuezCanal has caused transit delays. Current traffic situation is as follows:

71 vessels at Suez Anchorage awaiting NB transit

79 vessels awaiting SB transit of which 34 are anchored at Great Bitter Lake & 45 at Port Said Outer Anchorage"

150 vessels blocked

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

#417

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8 days, but the bigger problem is that increases the expected sea states encountered by several levels. Huge container ships don't like that.

Can you expand as to why not/what "increases expected sea states encountered" means? Maybe an ELI5

Hoping I'm not misreading and this is what you're after - basically, less predictable weather that is more prone to suddenly changing when going that route and also naturally given the extended period of time involved. Longer it take to go around, the more time for potential sea conditions that large container ships may not be safe in.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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8 days, but the bigger problem is that increases the expected sea states encountered by several levels. Huge container ships don't like that.

Can you expand as to why not/what "increases expected sea states encountered" means? Maybe an ELI5

Very rough water around the cape of good hope. Comparatively calm water through the Suez and Med.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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As is the environmental harm

Super-ships emit ~5g_Co2/Ton/km on average[1], while railway is 2-35g, air transport is 700-3000g and truck transport is 100-2000g. Surprisingly, the bigger the boat the more effective. We tend to have a bias against larger machines, but often they can be the cleanest in proportion. [1] https://www.ademe.fr/sites/default/files/assets/documents/86...

Why truck transport x20 vary?
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