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Re: Gnome 40

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Post by throwaway744678 »

onnnon wrote: post #59

It's interesting to see the focus on these desktop management features. I've been a long time macOS user and have never found "Launchpad", "Mission Control / Expose", or "multiple Desktops" useful in practice. I just use multiple monitors with everything I need on them in the same workspace. Do you guys actually use these features? I find the contextual switching distracting.

Not using Launchpad nor multiple desktops (like you, I find two monitors are enough), but exposé mapped on hot corners is very useful, to either switch to an invisible app, or access the desktop. A quick mouse move to the top-right (with mouse acceleration, you don't need the movement to be long, just fast), and there you go.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by z77dj3kl »

One of the best things about macOS is how well integrated the touchpad is with the desktop environment. As in, I can do the four-finger swipe to move between workspaces, and if I drag it slowly and halfway, then yank back, the animation will follow my movements exactly.

Seems Gnome now has a bunch of those features. Are there any touchpads for which it's this well integrated and works? Or is it the same that it's always been: there's some kind of binary "gesture" recognizer that is then executed with a pretty animation?

This is one of the biggest things keeping me on macOS at the moment.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by Delk »

Aardwolf wrote: post #14

The open windows don't even have visible taskbar buttons in the fancy presentation it shows at the top I have no idea how you can productively work that way The reason for getting 4K monitors is not to have less stuff that can make you productive visible KDE 3.5 was the top of OSS desktops, in my opinion

This might be just a matter of what I've gotten used to, but I have the "Activities" view (which shows previews of open windows, as well as the dock-like thing for launching applications) bound to the super/windows key which is nearly always very easily accessible.

If I'm switching windows and I'm not alt-tabbing, I usually just hit the super key and select the window from the thumbnails/previews.

I don't find that to be unproductive, but then, I haven't really been even trying to change the basics of my desktop or experimenting much in a while, so it might be that I've just settled for it to some extent.

If I had to first move the mouse to one location in order to get a list of windows, and then again to another location to select the window I want, I don't think that would work at all. But with a very easily accessible keyboard shortcut for the first part it does.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by fiddlerwoaroof »

freedomben wrote: post #47
calvinmorrison wrote: post #5

What's with the change over to these '40' style naming schemes? I absolutely detest it if it's not done for a real reason. Firstly, without major versions it does not single anything to end users and end developers. Is '40' still mostly compatible with the gnome 3.x.x API? Is there a major divergence between 40 and 41? Is 41 and 40 a total rewrite? 3.x.x works and there's a reason why. It conveys a lot of information…

Your question is valid (and I have the same one) but this is about as uncharitable a thing to say as you can, especially without providing evidence/examples: > I guess they want to obfuscate as much as possible and dumb things down for users like they have been doing for close to a decade. The Gnome project has done an enormous amount to push the open source and free desktop forward. The least we can do is not impute…

I strongly disagree: the gnome project and the systemd mess are both severely damaging Linux. The good thing, though, is that KDE Plasma seems to have recovered nicely from the KDE 3->4 mess.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by turminal »

nerdponx wrote: post #76
superkuh wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. I actually went to GNOME's IRC network the other day to talk to them about gtkfilechooser's multiple problems. Yours, and then the lack of text input for typing or pasting file paths. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/938 . They said they have no one assigned to gtkfilechooser bugs and none will be addressed. I was able to download the debian source for a couple gtk applications (ie, gedit/pluma) and ap…

Purely out of curiosity, what else is the Gtk team currently working on? People have been complaining about the file chooser for years. I'd be willing to donate a good chunk of money just to support "basic UX" improvements to FOSS software and toolkits like Gtk. Should we start a "Fix the Gtk file chooser" Gofundme?

> Purely out of curiosity, what else is the Gtk team currently working on?

Probably redesigning the entire interface. "For your convenience".

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by legulere »

ogre_codes wrote: post #44

Been a few years since I’ve used Gnome, I hadn’t realized they’d pivoted so much to following MacOS. It looks like they’ve taken a lot of the best parts of MacOS and built something really nice atop it.

I have the feeling it also happened the other way around as well. When Gnome 3 came out the big buttons and huge whitespace seemed ridiculous, especially with Big Sur MacOS looks very similar.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by ufo »

renke1 wrote: post #62
ufo wrote: post #15

I love that they are making the compose key feature more discoverable. It's the best way to type strange characters like å, ř or ©.

Let's hope it actually reads the available combinations from ~/.XCompose. I am pretty sure that this was not the case (at least at some point in the past).

GNOME 3.38 allows adding custom sequences using the .Xcompose file. The only thing that doesn't work are include directives. I'd imagine it will be the same with GNOME 40.
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