Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Gnome 40

forty.gnome.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 244 posts

Re: Gnome 40

#21

Post by Aardwolf »

JorgeGT wrote: post #18
Aardwolf wrote: post #14

The open windows don't even have visible taskbar buttons in the fancy presentation it shows at the top I have no idea how you can productively work that way The reason for getting 4K monitors is not to have less stuff that can make you productive visible KDE 3.5 was the top of OSS desktops, in my opinion

I think I'm missing something... Where is the taskbar? Do you need that "overview" animation each time you want to bring an application to focus? And where are the menus of the focused application?

No, that's not at all what I mean. I prefer no animations and no hidden things at all!

I prefer a taskbar at the bottom with one button per window in it, so that I can have an overview of which windows are open, which document each has, and quickly switch to it with mouse (when not using alt+tab to switch between recent windows).

What I do not want is to have to activate something, or have some animation, first, before seeing what I want to navigate to.

Re: Gnome 40

#22

Post by bryanlarsen »

antihero wrote: post #11
dvirsky wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually this numbering scheme conveys to me, intuitively, that changes are more gradual and hints at backwards compatibility. If there's no major/minor/patch semantics I just assume versions are small incremental additions. I could be wrong but that's what the browser versioning schemes have instilled in me.

Which is bizarre, because if you do want to have a breaking new version, what exactly do you do?

> if you do want to have a breaking new version, what exactly do you do?

You change the name. Like "Raku" instead of "Perl6". Once you've reached a certain level of stability and usage, any substantial breaking change is going to inevitably result in a fork, so embracing that up front is going to result in a much better experience.

Re: Gnome 40

#23

Post by bryanlarsen »

grumpyprole wrote: post #12
dvirsky wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually this numbering scheme conveys to me, intuitively, that changes are more gradual and hints at backwards compatibility. If there's no major/minor/patch semantics I just assume versions are small incremental additions. I could be wrong but that's what the browser versioning schemes have instilled in me.

> and hints at backwards compatibility. To me it communicates no commitment to backwards compatibility, i.e. no semantic versioning. This might be enforceable if one is Apple, but doesn't sound good for an open-source platform.

To me it communicates a commitment that they'll never have any significant breaking change ever again without changing their name, fork style.

Re: Gnome 40

#24

Post by ziftface »

zserge wrote: post #9
WoodenChair wrote: post #2

It looks heavily inspired by macOS. Especially if you scroll down to the “Core Apps” section. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

As the one who works simultaneously with macOS and Linux, I would be happy to see some unification. I'm not speaking about visual differences or look-n-feel of the apps, but common tasks like desktop switching or window switching - things you do hundreds times a day. Those IMO should involve as little brain as possible and rely on muscle memory.

This is my favorite thing about this update. That along with that mac hotkey tools for linux should make the transition back and forth easier.

Re: Gnome 40

#25

Post by beowulfey »

pmontra wrote: post #20
JorgeGT wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I'm missing something... Where is the taskbar? Do you need that "overview" animation each time you want to bring an application to focus? And where are the menus of the focused application?

The menus should be in the hamburger menu on the top right of each window. A time waster and a recent fad coming from small screen devices. I can't answer your other questions. Not only I don't have GNOME 40 but I greatly tweaked Ubuntu 20' GNOME to disable all animations, remove the launcher, move the top bar to the bottom, use those very same horizontal virtual desktops they introduced in 40 (hurrah) and add an old…

Any reason why you did all that vs. trying something like KDE?

I like Gnome default, but KDE does most of what you described by default too.

Re: Gnome 40

#27

Post by josefx »

antihero wrote: post #11
dvirsky wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually this numbering scheme conveys to me, intuitively, that changes are more gradual and hints at backwards compatibility. If there's no major/minor/patch semantics I just assume versions are small incremental additions. I could be wrong but that's what the browser versioning schemes have instilled in me.

Which is bizarre, because if you do want to have a breaking new version, what exactly do you do?

You change the name of the software, like consoles? The next big Gnome version could then be called Gnome 360 followed by Gnome 1, Gnome 64 or Gnome 3.11 for work groups.

Re: Gnome 40

#28

Post by JorgeGT »

Aardwolf wrote: post #21
JorgeGT wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I'm missing something... Where is the taskbar? Do you need that "overview" animation each time you want to bring an application to focus? And where are the menus of the focused application?

No, that's not at all what I mean. I prefer no animations and no hidden things at all! I prefer a taskbar at the bottom with one button per window in it, so that I can have an overview of which windows are open, which document each has, and quickly switch to it with mouse (when not using alt+tab to switch between recent windows). What I do not want is to have to activate something, or have some animation, first, befo…

Sorry if it wasn't clear (not a native speaker), I agree completely with all your points. I also don't want hidden things or animations each time I want to focus on another app. It was an open question, I'm wondering if anyone using Gnome 40 can answer? Also, just hovering over the Unity taskbar and scrolling with the mousewheel to cycle between windows is fantastic, I miss that a lot on Windows!

Re: Gnome 40

#30

Post by Aardwolf »

JorgeGT wrote: post #28
Aardwolf wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, that's not at all what I mean. I prefer no animations and no hidden things at all! I prefer a taskbar at the bottom with one button per window in it, so that I can have an overview of which windows are open, which document each has, and quickly switch to it with mouse (when not using alt+tab to switch between recent windows). What I do not want is to have to activate something, or have some animation, first, befo…

Sorry if it wasn't clear (not a native speaker), I agree completely with all your points. I also don't want hidden things or animations each time I want to focus on another app. It was an open question, I'm wondering if anyone using Gnome 40 can answer? Also, just hovering over the Unity taskbar and scrolling with the mousewheel to cycle between windows is fantastic, I miss that a lot on Windows!

Oh, understood now, the question was to Gnome :)
Post reply on HN