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Re: Gnome 40

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Post by offtop5 »

iulian_r wrote: post #38
offtop5 wrote: post #26

I feel really stupid to ask , but can I install this on Windows.

You can only install this on windows in a VM (like Virtual Box). You also can't install it directly, you would need a Linux distribution as well. It would be easier to wait until Ubuntu or Fedora releases a new version which contains this version of GNOME. Desktop Environments on Linux are basically GUI themes.

Has anyone ever made a Windows gui them. I need the functionality of windows, but I much tire of the way Windows looks now

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by kitsunesoba »

als0 wrote: post #34

Kind of interesting and surprising that Gnome has gradually moved from a traditional Windows desktop look to a more macOS style with gestures and exposé included.

Interestingly, if you take a look at old screenshots of Gnome 2.x, GTK apps have had more "mac like" layout/distribution/whitespace of controls within application windows for a very long time, even if the Gnome itself took more after Win9x in other aspects (like having a taskbar).

By contrast KDE/Qt has always had a stronger Win9x feel through and through.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by superkuh »

hedora wrote: post #32

Have they fixed the file chooser yet? Specifically, I want to be able to click around on directories to choose where to save a file, type the file name, then press enter. This should save the file, not filter the directory listing. Also, I don’t want it to default to overwriting some file I saved last week.

No. I actually went to GNOME's IRC network the other day to talk to them about gtkfilechooser's multiple problems. Yours, and then the lack of text input for typing or pasting file paths. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/938 . They said they have no one assigned to gtkfilechooser bugs and none will be addressed.

I was able to download the debian source for a couple gtk applications (ie, gedit/pluma) and apply community sourced patches to them to get back the text/file path entry box. But there's no way I am going to be able to fix Gtk itself. And fixing every application on my system by compiling from source and making new debian packages, well, I might as well linux from scratch.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by symlinkk »

ogre_codes wrote: post #44

Been a few years since I’ve used Gnome, I hadn’t realized they’d pivoted so much to following MacOS. It looks like they’ve taken a lot of the best parts of MacOS and built something really nice atop it.

It’s been like this since Gnome 3 was released in 2011. This is why I've always been confused by people who say Linux has an “ugly, inconsistent, unprofessional” UI - to me this looks and feels better than Windows.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by stockerta »

hedora wrote: post #32

Have they fixed the file chooser yet? Specifically, I want to be able to click around on directories to choose where to save a file, type the file name, then press enter. This should save the file, not filter the directory listing. Also, I don’t want it to default to overwriting some file I saved last week.

Probably they will deprecate it soon, and gnome apps will randomly open a file for you. Just to be easier to use. A file picker dialog can confuse the user.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by pentagrama »

Ubuntu user here.

Was looking for when this GNOME version will be integrated to Ubuntu to check them out, it will not land in the next Ubuntu version.

> Ubuntu 21.04 will NOT include GNOME 40. Bew Ubuntu releases typically include the newest GNOME release but this time it won’t. Why? Well, GNOME 40 features bold design changes that Ubuntu devs feel they need more time to ‘adapt’ to. [1]

Overall I like the refresh, but for me the real UX test is when you use it for a week/month. Will have to wait!

[1] https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/01/ubuntu-21-04-release-fea...

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by onnnon »

It's interesting to see the focus on these desktop management features. I've been a long time macOS user and have never found "Launchpad", "Mission Control / Expose", or "multiple Desktops" useful in practice. I just use multiple monitors with everything I need on them in the same workspace. Do you guys actually use these features? I find the contextual switching distracting.

Re: Gnome 40

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Post by pmontra »

beowulfey wrote: post #25
pmontra wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The menus should be in the hamburger menu on the top right of each window. A time waster and a recent fad coming from small screen devices. I can't answer your other questions. Not only I don't have GNOME 40 but I greatly tweaked Ubuntu 20' GNOME to disable all animations, remove the launcher, move the top bar to the bottom, use those very same horizontal virtual desktops they introduced in 40 (hurrah) and add an old…

Any reason why you did all that vs. trying something like KDE? I like Gnome default, but KDE does most of what you described by default too.

I gave a try to KDE for a couple of months in 2014 and didn't like it. I felt I was clicking twice as much as in GNOME to accomplish the same thing. Furthermore I liked the look of GNOME more than KDE's.

I kept using GNOME fallback (or flashback?) until 2018 because it worked as I like. I knew there were GNOME shell extensions to suit my needs by then so I switched to GNOME shell with Ubuntu 18.04.

I never researched KDE so I don't know what became of it. A total change of DE is a big thing and could take a lot of time.

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