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Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Still stuck. 6 tugs are on it and a pleasure craft, possibly used to direct operations or some idiot taking pictures.

>and a pleasure craft I see that labeling too, but the Tahia Misr2 is a tug, sister to the Tahia Misr1. I'm not sure why it's displaying as a pleasure craft.

Ah thanks. I bet it's a data sanitization or registration foul-up. It's Egypt, after all, where things don't always work honestly or consistently.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Can't see the flag, because the whole page is blocked by some BS (presumably in german). Blocking own content or creating obstacles to see it ... what can be more ridiculous. I just close such web pages and never come back.

The first notification informes you about the cookies the website is using. You need to agree to the use of the cookies to continue. This is mandatory by european law. But I agree with you that the placement and the fact that the banner blocks the whole website is unconvenient. The second notification tells you to turn your ad-blocker of or to watch a video instead.

The law doesn't say that the cookie banner has to cover the entire page. It doesn't say either that the button to reject the cookies must be hidden at the end of the form.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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post #198

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Some back-of-the-napkin calculations: The ship's got over 20k containers, so less than $10 per container. Shipping a container from Asia to Europe costs thousands of dollars, so passing through the canal is less than 1% of the cost. Sounds fair to me?

The ship in the video is not a container ship but a taker or bulk cargo ship, so you cannot calculate this way. But I am sure it is not much if you divide the toll fee by total shipping cost or even the value of the cargo. It was just the total sum that I found impressive.

Oh, good point - I mixed it up with Ever Given. Agreed $200k is a lot, but probably totally insignificant compared to the major costs (fuel, wear & tear).

Maintaining the channel seems to be a lot of work... like when ships crash into the bank and block it.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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They'd be crappy terrorists because shipping delays don't cause terror the way real terrorism does.

No they’d be geniuses because they would cause economic losses to powerful people a lot like how the good Friday agreement came about quite quickly after the IRA broke every office window in the finicial district of London with a truckload of fertiliser. No-one was killed and glaziers rates went up 10 times for a few months. It caused a big disruption to the financial district but most ordinary people weren’t that bo…

Which specific IRA bombing are you referring to there? If it's the Baltic Exchange Bombing, 3 people died and 91 were injured.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Exchange_bombing

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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I love the position of the Swedish flag in that photo. Given that the accident happened in Germany and the ship is Taiwanese. It is just freaky, I don't know if it is good or bad to be associated with such an incident. In a plane crash they are usually quick to paint over the name of the airline company to not be associated. I don't think this is the same though.

> It is just freaky, I don't know if it is good or bad to be associated with such an incident. I think it's not good because of the potential to become politicly charged. Add some "cyber" and it has NatSec types reeling. There is a scenario in Ghost Fleet [1] where a vessel sailing under a Chinese flag blocks the Panama canal in a theater of war with the West. Not going to issue any spoilers but it's a brilliant (fic…

I believe the US military was worried about a German or Japanese strike on the Panama canal in WW2. And the Suez Canal was literally blocked by scuttling ships when Egypt took control in the Suez crisis.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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I love the position of the Swedish flag in that photo. Given that the accident happened in Germany and the ship is Taiwanese. It is just freaky, I don't know if it is good or bad to be associated with such an incident. In a plane crash they are usually quick to paint over the name of the airline company to not be associated. I don't think this is the same though.

Not the first time the Swedes have had experience with tall ships causing problems.

Ha, you refer to the Vasa, I guess? ;)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Still stuck. 6 tugs are on it and a pleasure craft, possibly used to direct operations or some idiot taking pictures.

There will be a ton of pictures to document, and later investigate, that incident.

Is the Suez Canal Authority of Egypt or maritime authorities in-charge professional enough to do this?

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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So, fellow Europeans, prepare for a longer delivery time for most of your items starting from, I don't know, 10 days from now? What's the buffer size for most of the products in, say, an Amazon Fulfillment facility?

Well isn't it nice of the Chinese to invest in rail!

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Here is another accident of the "Ever Given" in Hamburg [0] in which a harbour ferry suffered a total loss after being rammed by her. Supposed cause was an unfortunate combination of slow speeds and severe wind which seems to be a difficult situation for ships as tall as these. Maybe a similar combination of events happened here? [0] https://www.mopo.de/hamburg/frachter-rammt-faehre-knapp-an-d...

I believe the cause of the incident here was a blackout [1]. [1] https://gcaptain.com/grounded-mega-ship-blocking-suez-canal-...

GAC has pulled that claim, they made it here and now it 404s: https://www.gac.com/news--media/hot-port-news/container-ship...

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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> It is just freaky, I don't know if it is good or bad to be associated with such an incident. I think it's not good because of the potential to become politicly charged. Add some "cyber" and it has NatSec types reeling. There is a scenario in Ghost Fleet [1] where a vessel sailing under a Chinese flag blocks the Panama canal in a theater of war with the West. Not going to issue any spoilers but it's a brilliant (fic…

I believe the US military was worried about a German or Japanese strike on the Panama canal in WW2. And the Suez Canal was literally blocked by scuttling ships when Egypt took control in the Suez crisis.

The Panama Canal has always been much more vulnerable than Suez, as the latter is sea-level for it's entire length and has no locks.

Destroying or blocking as few as three locks could semi-permanently block all traffic in Panama, or worse, drain Gatun.

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