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Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by fifilura »

_Microft wrote: post #180

Here is another accident of the "Ever Given" in Hamburg [0] in which a harbour ferry suffered a total loss after being rammed by her. Supposed cause was an unfortunate combination of slow speeds and severe wind which seems to be a difficult situation for ships as tall as these. Maybe a similar combination of events happened here? [0] https://www.mopo.de/hamburg/frachter-rammt-faehre-knapp-an-d...

I love the position of the Swedish flag in that photo.

Given that the accident happened in Germany and the ship is Taiwanese.

It is just freaky, I don't know if it is good or bad to be associated with such an incident.

In a plane crash they are usually quick to paint over the name of the airline company to not be associated. I don't think this is the same though.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by ggregoire »

danaos wrote: post #47
jandrese wrote: post #27

According to the Twitter feed there is now a excavator trying to dig out the bow. It really shows off the scale as the excavator looks like a tiny toy next to the massive container ship. https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1374468169784459267/pho...

Uhhh it's in Wikipedia's "largest container ships" list! [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_container_ship...

Anyone knows why all those Korean, Swiss and Taiwanese ships are registered in Panama instead of their own country?

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by hef19898 »

capableweb wrote: post #23

If you go to vesselfinder you can follow the drama in real-time! Seems it's still stuck: https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9811000

Fond memories. I once tracked a ship carrying a couple of containers that were urgently needed driving in circles in the English Channel for two weeks.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by hef19898 »

airhead969 wrote: post #237
harry8 wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Had more luck with this one, hug of death? https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:5630138/zoo...

Still stuck. 6 tugs are on it and a pleasure craft, possibly used to direct operations or some idiot taking pictures.

There will be a ton of pictures to document, and later investigate, that incident.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by martin_a »

ggregoire wrote: post #282
danaos wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uhhh it's in Wikipedia's "largest container ships" list! [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_container_ship...

Anyone knows why all those Korean, Swiss and Taiwanese ships are registered in Panama instead of their own country?

Just another tax evasion scheme.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by HenryKissinger »

cycomanic wrote: post #270
zests wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This link is extremely interesting. Keep zooming out all the way if you haven't already.

Apparently 30% of all container traffic go through the Suez canal. Around 51 ships per day.

How much longer would it take to go around Africa to Gibraltar?

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by VBprogrammer »

lmilcin wrote: post #262
Symmetry wrote: post #259

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For ships that have turbo-electric drive trains rather than big shafts, I wonder if it would be possible to vector the propellers somewhat for better maneuverability, the same way that rockets use gimballing engines? Probably not worth the maintenance though, with sealant and salt water considerations.

Anything else than straight shaft with a propeller on it is a loss of efficiency and reliability. When the fuel efficiency and reliability drive your competitiveness that is a huge issue.

Something that people perhaps don't appreciate is that typical large ships like this don't even have a gearbox (which would be perhaps 95% efficient).

They use large two stroke diesel engines which can be stopped and started in reverse. They use an extra valve in the engine head to admit air for starting and have valve gear which controls the direction.

Cruise ships on the other hand have electrical house loads which are almost the same as their propulsion loads. In addition to the manoeuvrability advantages this makes diesel electric drive advantageous.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by HenryKissinger »

Iv wrote: post #280
jandrese wrote: post #27

According to the Twitter feed there is now a excavator trying to dig out the bow. It really shows off the scale as the excavator looks like a tiny toy next to the massive container ship. https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1374468169784459267/pho...

I feel so much empathy for "the little excavator that could"

I feel empathy for the driver. Worst job in the world.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by cycomanic »

Ekaros wrote: post #31
detritus wrote: post #25

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I don't think I'd ever considered prior to now how much more economic it would be to release "The one nuclear bomb [TerroristOrganisation] can afford to muster" in a shipping choke-point, rather than a city. So, another thing to worry about :)

Dozen or so ships would be enough to blockade both Suez and Panama... That would cause substantial damage to global shipping industry... Not even that expensive. Hundred or two hundred million would do...

Panama is not that busy. A much better target would be the kiel canal (Nord- Ostsee Kanal in German), which is the busiest waterway in the world 25000 ships yearly vs 19000 ships for the Suez vs 12000 for Panama.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by andrewinardeer »

serf wrote: post #243
airhead969 wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still stuck. 6 tugs are on it and a pleasure craft, possibly used to direct operations or some idiot taking pictures.

>and a pleasure craft I see that labeling too, but the Tahia Misr2 is a tug, sister to the Tahia Misr1. I'm not sure why it's displaying as a pleasure craft.

Maybe it is enjoying itself?
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