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Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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The BBC article [0] is saying that apparently an older parallel channel has been reopened. Does anyone know where this might be? I can't find a parallel channel that would bypass this blockage... [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56505413

Indeed, the ship is stranded between the Small Bitter Lake and the Suez Port so there seems to be no bypass available. (The New Suez Canal doesn't cover this particular range.)

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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post #204

https://twitter.com/MarineTraffic/status/1374650543344390147... It's pretty insane that I can track what ship is where on the other side of the planet in real time.

too bad airplane don't have the same ability, otherwise, we'd know where MH370 went

> too bad airplane don't have the same ability

Airplanes have ADS-B, which is quite similar to the maritime AIS location broadcasting. The only significant difference is that satellite AIS coverage is high and ships don't go fast, so having no signal for a few hours is not as big a problem for ships.

ADS-B satellite coverage is currently provided by (at least) the iridium constellation, but that only came into effect in 2016.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

#233

Here is another accident of the "Ever Given" in Hamburg [0] in which a harbour ferry suffered a total loss after being rammed by her. Supposed cause was an unfortunate combination of slow speeds and severe wind which seems to be a difficult situation for ships as tall as these. Maybe a similar combination of events happened here? [0] https://www.mopo.de/hamburg/frachter-rammt-faehre-knapp-an-d...

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Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the end of the video he says that he estimates the transit toll for his ship to be around 200,000$. Wow!

Some back-of-the-napkin calculations: The ship's got over 20k containers, so less than $10 per container. Shipping a container from Asia to Europe costs thousands of dollars, so passing through the canal is less than 1% of the cost. Sounds fair to me?

The ship in the video is not a container ship but a taker or bulk cargo ship, so you cannot calculate this way. But I am sure it is not much if you divide the toll fee by total shipping cost or even the value of the cargo. It was just the total sum that I found impressive.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

#236

Genuine question: why "EVER GIVEN" when "EVERGREEN" is written on the side of the ship? Someone with insider knowledge: is this a typo or similar error? How does it happen and proliferate without being corrected?

Evergreen is a Taiwanese conglomerate that owns several freighters (along with an airline, hotels, god knows what else)

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

#237
post #173

If you go to vesselfinder you can follow the drama in real-time! Seems it's still stuck: https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9811000

Had more luck with this one, hug of death? https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:5630138/zoo...

Still stuck. 6 tugs are on it and a pleasure craft, possibly used to direct operations or some idiot taking pictures.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

#238
post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Super-ships emit ~5g_Co2/Ton/km on average[1], while railway is 2-35g, air transport is 700-3000g and truck transport is 100-2000g. Surprisingly, the bigger the boat the more effective. We tend to have a bias against larger machines, but often they can be the cleanest in proportion. [1] https://www.ademe.fr/sites/default/files/assets/documents/86...

Isn't the problem that ships are burning heavy oil instead of diesel or similar? CO2 isn't the main worry afaik, it's the rest that gets blasted unfiltered into the atmosphere and the left over sludge that gets illegally dumped into the sea.

it's not perfect but it's gotten better apparently. 170 countries have signed a treaty significantly reducing the fuel sulphur content.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARPOL_73/78#IMO_2020

https://www.imo.org/fr/MediaCentre/HotTopics/Pages/Sulphur-2...

https://www.imo.org/en/MediaCentre/PressBriefings/pages/02-I...

  The upper limit of the sulphur content of ships' fuel oil was reduced to 0.5% (from 3.5% previously) - under the so-called "IMO 2020" regulation prescribed in the MARPOL Convention. This significantly reduces the amount of sulphur oxide emanating from ships.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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post #101

Tengential but I am always curious what software these huge logistics company use to manage their business. From my outsider's perspective, it seems like a best-in-class-software enabled company would have a massive advantage over the rest. Interested to hear if anyone has insights about this

There was a very interesting Omega Tau podcast about this very subject a while back. They go into a lot of detail about the optimization problem and how they address it.

http://traffic.libsyn.com/omegataupodcast/omegatau-146-conta...

Also: a plug for Omega Tau, one of my favorite podcasts. https://omegataupodcast.net

Edited to add: go to the Archive page and scroll down. About half the episodes are in English and half in German.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

#240

Here is another accident of the "Ever Given" in Hamburg [0] in which a harbour ferry suffered a total loss after being rammed by her. Supposed cause was an unfortunate combination of slow speeds and severe wind which seems to be a difficult situation for ships as tall as these. Maybe a similar combination of events happened here? [0] https://www.mopo.de/hamburg/frachter-rammt-faehre-knapp-an-d...

I believe the cause of the incident here was a blackout [1].

[1] https://gcaptain.com/grounded-mega-ship-blocking-suez-canal-...

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