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Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by pjerem » Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 9:41 AM UTC

dylan604 wrote: post #211

konjin wrote: post #204

https://twitter.com/MarineTraffic/status/1374650543344390147... It's pretty insane that I can track what ship is where on the other side of the planet in real time.

too bad airplane don't have the same ability, otherwise, we'd know where MH370 went

Not sure if you are trolling or not but ... https://www.flightradar24.com/

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by austinjp » Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 9:41 AM UTC

Genuine question: why "EVER GIVEN" when "EVERGREEN" is written on the side of the ship?

Someone with insider knowledge: is this a typo or similar error? How does it happen and proliferate without being corrected?

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by cotillion » Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 9:44 AM UTC

austinjp wrote: post #222

Genuine question: why "EVER GIVEN" when "EVERGREEN" is written on the side of the ship? Someone with insider knowledge: is this a typo or similar error? How does it happen and proliferate without being corrected?

Evergreen is the shipping line which owns the ship. I guess they name their ships Ever .

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by mkl » Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 9:44 AM UTC

austinjp wrote: post #222

Genuine question: why "EVER GIVEN" when "EVERGREEN" is written on the side of the ship? Someone with insider knowledge: is this a typo or similar error? How does it happen and proliferate without being corrected?

From the Twitter thread: "For the confused: MV EVER GIVEN's operator is Evergreen Marine (https://evergreen-line.com) and Ever___ is a naming convention for some vessels."

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by beaconstudios » Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 9:44 AM UTC

arnaudsm wrote: post #212

yrro wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As is the environmental harm

Super-ships emit ~5g_Co2/Ton/km on average[1], while railway is 2-35g, air transport is 700-3000g and truck transport is 100-2000g. Surprisingly, the bigger the boat the more effective. We tend to have a bias against larger machines, but often they can be the cleanest in proportion. [1] https://www.ademe.fr/sites/default/files/assets/documents/86...

I would assume that were the case because if not, presumably it would be cheaper to transport the cargo in multiple smaller ships!

Assuming that pollution primarily caused by fuel usage of course.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by skore » Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 9:45 AM UTC

austinjp wrote: post #222

Genuine question: why "EVER GIVEN" when "EVERGREEN" is written on the side of the ship? Someone with insider knowledge: is this a typo or similar error? How does it happen and proliferate without being corrected?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ever_Given

vs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_Marine

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by manigandham » Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 9:45 AM UTC

austinjp wrote: post #222

Genuine question: why "EVER GIVEN" when "EVERGREEN" is written on the side of the ship? Someone with insider knowledge: is this a typo or similar error? How does it happen and proliferate without being corrected?

"Evergreen" is the name of the shipping company.

"Ever Given" is the name of the ship and written in smaller font on the bow and (always) on the stern.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by foepys » Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 9:46 AM UTC

arnaudsm wrote: post #212

yrro wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As is the environmental harm

Super-ships emit ~5g_Co2/Ton/km on average[1], while railway is 2-35g, air transport is 700-3000g and truck transport is 100-2000g. Surprisingly, the bigger the boat the more effective. We tend to have a bias against larger machines, but often they can be the cleanest in proportion. [1] https://www.ademe.fr/sites/default/files/assets/documents/86...

Isn't the problem that ships are burning heavy oil instead of diesel or similar? CO2 isn't the main worry afaik, it's the rest that gets blasted unfiltered into the atmosphere and the left over sludge that gets illegally dumped into the sea.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by anu7df » Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 9:46 AM UTC

austinjp wrote: post #222

Genuine question: why "EVER GIVEN" when "EVERGREEN" is written on the side of the ship? Someone with insider knowledge: is this a typo or similar error? How does it happen and proliferate without being corrected?

I think Evergreen is the shipping company. The name of the ship could be Ever Given.

Re: Suez canal blocked by a massive ship

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Post by wscott » Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 9:46 AM UTC

austinjp wrote: post #222

Genuine question: why "EVER GIVEN" when "EVERGREEN" is written on the side of the ship? Someone with insider knowledge: is this a typo or similar error? How does it happen and proliferate without being corrected?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_container_ship...

scroll down to #13 and read the names of the sister ships. The evergreen shipping line has 7 identical ships named "Ever XXX"