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Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Reddit must have been desperate to fill a diversity role. That's the only reason I can think of for employing Challenor given their past actions.

Reddit will never be profitable in the fiscal sense. They are trading in other forms of capital at this point.

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post #129

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Is it fair to criticize people for being gay too? I just don't see the points of these arguments. Thought people on this site "loved discussion". Nope. They love hearing their own opinions, and attacking and downvoting anything that is not conservative. I'm out.

You might have been downvoted for conflating gay and trans concerns as though they are the same. From what I've observed there are genuine conflicts between those communities and discussion is necessary to resolve them - it's not automatically "criticism". For example quite a few of the "gender critical" people being referred to here are actually lesbians, and they've been accused of hate or transphobia because they…

No. Don’t claim to speak for lesbians when there are actual lesbians here. (Hi! You don’t know what you’re talking about.) This is the propaganda bigoted lesbians spread in order to cast themselves as the victims. This is a classic abuser tactic. Nobody is forced or compelled to be attracted to anyone, and nobody believes that should be the case. If you make blanket statements like “I’m not attracted to people of X group,” you likely have some unexamined prejudice — you have not met all people of that group, and you have made a bunch of prejudicial assumptions about them.

But your own language betrays you. No one who has respect for trans people refers to trans women as “males who identify as women.”

You’re not engaging here in good faith.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

#183
post #89

Reminds me of the time the CEO (spez) was caught editing people's posts[0]. [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/5frg1n/tifu_...

To add to that, late editing your posts on patriots.win is now called spez-ing.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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post #124

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Too many times ration discussion critical on parts of the trans rights movement is heavily downvoted or banned. The people who otherwise support trans people, but think 'affirmation-only' approaches are the wrong way to go, are forced to forums/subs filled with people who are unapologetically transphobic. The discussion there will often lead the moderate opinions to radicalization. Of course parts of gay culture can…

> The people who otherwise support trans people, but think 'affirmation-only' approaches are the wrong way to go This is a contradiction in terms. Supporting trans people means believing that transition is not some sort of "regrettable outcome". > are forced to forums/subs filled with people who are unapologetically transphobic. The discussion there will often lead the moderate opinions to radicalization. You are the…

> This is a contradiction in terms. Supporting trans people means believing that transition is not some sort of "regrettable outcome".

No one is saying transition is a "regrettable outcome".

What people are saying is that some people may think they are trans and then change their minds later. In these cases a watchful-waiting approach is better because it may allow the person to avoid life-altering decisions like surgery or hormone replacement. This is not a hypothetical, there are recorded examples of young adults who, having undergone these therapies, came to regret it later.

> You are the company you keep.

If we extend this logic (which we should under no circumstances do) we could say that Aimee Challenor is guilty of the rape and torture of a 10 year old child.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

#185

Identity politics has become a shield and weapon for bad behavior - how dare you question me you must be a bigot. Whoever can gain the public’s attention first controls the narrative.

I read this on Twitter recently:

"The reason why so many extremely woke people turn out to have been bigoted in the past is because bigotry used to be the best way to bully and intimidate people, but now performative anti-bigotry is the best way to bully and intimidate people. An evolving toolset for sociopaths." https://twitter.com/shantmm/status/1364992332064378880

To me, that's one of the best explanation of what we are witnessing at large.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

#187

I am completely lost here. I feel like a Boomer on Snapchat. Can someone please give a 5 sentence tl;dr of (a) who this person is, (b) what the original controversy was about, and (c) why the Reddit admins care so much? This is one of those stories that keeps popping up in front of me but I really do not have the will nor the time to engage with it, so I'd really appreciate a concise and unbiased summary if anyone ca…

(a) Former UK Green Party equality spokesperson and candidate, current Reddit administrator (read: employee not volunteer).

(b) While a candidate for the UK Green Party, she employed her father as campaign manager ("election agent"). Her mother, who lived with the father, also ran as a candidate and also employed the father as campaign manager. In 2018, her father was charged and convicted of raping and torturing a child in his home.

(c) This person currently works for Reddit, and is allegedly enforcing a line of censorship in order to protect herself from online harassment.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

#188

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"plainly" is an extremely loaded word in this context.

No, plainly. It's not even close.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you won't always be right.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

#189
post #47

I've got to assume that the bannings are being done by Aimee as the new admin, because I can't imagine that anyone else at reddit would be so unfamiliar with Reddit that they would think this is a good idea. Look how much shit Ellen Pao got, and she was basically doing a decent job. I can't imagine this is going to go much better.

> shit Ellen Pao got, and she was basically doing a decent job. Those were different times, were the Ellen Pao situation to happen right now again I don't think things would go the same way as they did the first time. This reddit admin person also has the advantage of being a trans, and trans people are the new token individuals (have been for one year and half - two, I guess), I can't see Reddit the company not taki…

> and trans people are the new token individuals

You have to be totally detached from reality to actually believe this. Have you not paid any attention at all to the number of anti-trans laws being brought in a number of US states? There's been over 100 in 2021.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

#190
post #152

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Flagging is the least bad system I’ve seen so far. HN can be configured to show flagged or dead posts as well so it doesn’t really compare.

I don't think it's an awful system but I don't think it's exactly right for HN - in normal operations it works fairly well but when combined with some less desirable HN stereotypes it can just involve shutting down discussion one disagrees with (e.g. merely mentioning Donald Trump by name was an insta flag during the election, but you could always get away with worse if you talked about democrats because the average…

I think most of us automatically downvote or flag anything political regardless of personal politics. Especially US presidential politics, because that's what the uninteresting parts of the internet are for.
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