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Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by debacle »

zozbot234 wrote: post #85
howinteresting wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The specific policy and political recommendations of the people on the gender critical subreddit are very transphobic, and not even in a nuanced way. Fuck the meta level. I'm only interested in engaging with specifics.

> The specific policy and political recommendations of the people on the gender critical subreddit are very transphobic There's plenty of actual transphobia occurring, out there in the real world - as in, real hateful violence and oppression being done to people who identify as trans or even just behave in non-gender-typical ways. So you're quite factually wrong about this. Gender-critical feminists do not even regis…

I might disagree with you on one point - Gender critical feminists, whose detractors have kindly labeled "TERFs," threaten the philosophical underpinnings of the trans movement in a way that trans hate does not.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by howinteresting »

km3r wrote: post #124
mercurysmessage wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it fair to criticize people for being gay too? I just don't see the points of these arguments. Thought people on this site "loved discussion". Nope. They love hearing their own opinions, and attacking and downvoting anything that is not conservative. I'm out.

Too many times ration discussion critical on parts of the trans rights movement is heavily downvoted or banned. The people who otherwise support trans people, but think 'affirmation-only' approaches are the wrong way to go, are forced to forums/subs filled with people who are unapologetically transphobic. The discussion there will often lead the moderate opinions to radicalization. Of course parts of gay culture can…

> The people who otherwise support trans people, but think 'affirmation-only' approaches are the wrong way to go

This is a contradiction in terms. Supporting trans people means believing that transition is not some sort of "regrettable outcome".

> are forced to forums/subs filled with people who are unapologetically transphobic. The discussion there will often lead the moderate opinions to radicalization.

You are the company you keep.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by thefz »

debacle wrote: post #110
thefz wrote: post #88

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I know it sounds trite, but most small-ish subreddit communities are still sane. Avoid the main ones like the plague though.

It depends. I have had interactions with some small community moderators that border on the insane. I was banned from AskHistorians for explaining the historical utility of nomadic herding of livestock. The moderator who banned me was also the moderator of a vegan/vegetarian subreddit. I don't log into the site any longer.

Ah, AskHistorians can be rough. Maybe it's a more technical thing, but on some sports and some computer niche subreddits I feel okay and there's a nice discussion.

But I understand your position and find myself using the site less and less.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by Closi »

xsmasher wrote: post #68
underseacables wrote: post #8

Identity politics has become a shield and weapon for bad behavior - how dare you question me you must be a bigot. Whoever can gain the public’s attention first controls the narrative.

What is the connection to identity politics here? I am missing it.

Because after she was thrown out of the green party she said ‘transphobia’ was the reason she was being thrown out, presumably in an attempt to deflect from the real reason.

The real reason was that she recruited her father as a campaign manager while knowing he was being charged for sexual offences, and he would eventually be convicted of raping and torturing a 10 year old child which was held captive in the attic of the house she was living in at the time.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by Symbiote »

I think the unwelcome article is probably this one, since it is easily found with a Google search suggestion: "Aimee Challenor G[raham Linehan]".

NB the final picture is Challenor dressed as an infant (dress + teddy bear). Most other images are cartoon drawings from fetish/furry sites.

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/ashton-challenor-the-bo...

(I'm posting this link as it seems important to the discussion. I'll check in about 30 minutes and delete it if it is significantly downvoted.)

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by [deleted] »

Barrin92 wrote: post #65
underseacables wrote: post #8

Identity politics has become a shield and weapon for bad behavior - how dare you question me you must be a bigot. Whoever can gain the public’s attention first controls the narrative.

Identity, status and standing has always been a shield or weapon for bad behaviour, just look at the kind of abuse scandals the church got and still gets away with. It's more like we've just expanded the grifting privileges to more groups

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Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by LunaSea »

sonthonax wrote: post #116
cde-v wrote: post #93

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Maybe don't hire a known child rapist/torturer if you don't want to be hated.

We're in agreement that knowingly associating oneself with pedophiles deserves a degree of opprobrium. However that does raise the question, how much opprobrium? The person in question probably suffers psychologically a great deal. Who wouldn't if they were dealt with the double-hand of gender-dysphoria and a pedophile father? I think it is safe to conclude this person is not well. Does the world really stand to gain…

Q1: Should a psychologically suffering person be able to run for public office?

I would say yes.

Q2: If so, should a public figure that is psychologically suffering be safeguarded from any criticism

I would say no since being a public figure was a conscious choice.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by Karawebnetwork »

phpnode wrote: post #22

HN is also penalising threads that discuss this. This post has 74 upvotes in 27 minutes and 11 comments at time of writing. Ordinarily it would significantly outrank most of the other posts on the front page, but it doesn't seem to be able to break past #15. Either this is because HN users are flagging it, or because something else is going on. As Reddit is a YC company it'd be really nice to hear an explanation. Thi…

I think many people don't care about Reddit at all and perceive these discussions as off topic and uninteresting. There are better spaces to discuss those, such as /r/SubredditDrama/.

If this were a new article on the subject, it might fit. But links to Reddit threads while the drama is happening live? To me, that's gossip.

Edit: Disclaimer because that's how it is on the internet, I am transgender. Yet I have never heard of this person before and only learned their gender identity in the comments here. I don't care about Reddit or UK Politics.

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