Not sure if just me, but the Butterfly keyboard is the best keyboard I've ever used on a notebook. The thinness didn't matter to me, typing feel felt so much more stable and solid. I don't believe it was created due to a pursuit of thinness. That said, I didn't have failures other than a couple of minor occurrences, twice I had to clean out my 2016 (with blown air), and never had any issues on my 2018.
I’m torn.
I think it’s a great typing experience but they do break too easily.
Both my work macbook pro and my personal macbook air have keyboard issues. My personal skips or double hits the letter “e”, which has been a nightmare because I’ve been writing a book the whole time. My work laptop is worse, the command key doesn’t work most of the time. Sometimes I try to copy something, I’ll hit command-c and instead it’ll overwrite my selection with “c”. So I try to undo and hit command-z, so it’l…
I'm in the same boat. Initially, I was skeptical of all the reports about how frequently the issue was happening, and I was starting to believe that it was just hysterics by the anti-Apple crowd. But it was eventually just a matter of time. First my personal laptop had issues, and I was thankfully able to take advantage of the free keyboard replacement. Then my work laptop began experiencing the same issue, and it's…
I just did an online chat with Apple to get my keyboard replaced due to similar issues. It’s out of warranty but they said they’ll do it for free for up to four years after the date of retail sale...I happened to be exactly, to the day, four years from when I bought it! Make sure you get it done before then!
I actually blame Johnny Ive for this clusterf*ck. Ive famously pursued a crusade for thinness. It's said that design is the art of compromise. Well, Ive took a no compromises approach to thinness and it showed. Look no further than the 12" Macbook. One port (also needed for power), lower power CPU and (I believe?) the start of the dreaded butterfly keyboard. IIRC the butterfly keyboard's raison d'etre was to shave ha…
You can probably use the Ive/Jobs combination to describe evolution. Ive was the mutation source, Jobs was the selection filter. What makes evolution work is selection. Without selection you get crap. Mutation is just the noise you need to have something to apply (recombination and) selection to. It is hard to say how much post-Jobs was really Ive. But it was clear that Apple got really lost. And it does suggest that…
> You can probably use the Ive/Jobs combination to describe evolution. Ive was the mutation source, Jobs was the selection filter.
So they were a kind of a subtractive synthesizer, one could say.
Not sure if just me, but the Butterfly keyboard is the best keyboard I've ever used on a notebook. The thinness didn't matter to me, typing feel felt so much more stable and solid. I don't believe it was created due to a pursuit of thinness. That said, I didn't have failures other than a couple of minor occurrences, twice I had to clean out my 2016 (with blown air), and never had any issues on my 2018.
I actually blame Johnny Ive for this clusterf*ck. Ive famously pursued a crusade for thinness. It's said that design is the art of compromise. Well, Ive took a no compromises approach to thinness and it showed. Look no further than the 12" Macbook. One port (also needed for power), lower power CPU and (I believe?) the start of the dreaded butterfly keyboard. IIRC the butterfly keyboard's raison d'etre was to shave ha…
I don't believe the Air got rid of the Touch Bar -- it never had it. It was only on the Pro. What's so "Pro" about replacing the useful function keys (including the escape key) with a bar that does nothing but pick emojis is beyond me. I strongly dislike the Touch Bar. I'm typing this on a 2019 MacBook Pro whose Touch Bar died yesterday, leaving me with no escape key, no volume buttons, no keyboard brightness buttons…
Super anecdotal comment here, but my down arrow key on my Macbook Air M1 2020 was recently sticking. No spills. Removed it, found nothing, and tried to put it back, but now I've cracked the key. Off to the Apple Genius bar I go. I've had it for nearly 4 months now. Hopefully this is just a one off.
Not sure about the new ones, but the old butterfly key caps were really thin and brittle plastic. And unlike other laptops they were attached with hooks and clips, which makes it hard to remove the cap without snapping the flimsy hook. It's just cheaply made. Compared to something like my t480s, I've been pounding on it for a few years now and no issues whatsoever, I can spill a drink, it's full of crumbs and dust, but still going. I even dropped it, replaced the lcd in a local shop. Screw apple, I'm not going back, even the m1 is not tempting me. I love the ports, repairability and ruggedness too much to give it up.
If anyone is having issues with a butterfly keyboard, please try this: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205662 It fixed many keys for me after I had just about given up.
That's nice, but in my case on the 2016 model the key caps would literally lift off and stick to my fingers. I suspect the heat would weaken the keys, technology nowadays must be designed by people living in colder climates.
The screen is now also showing a black area at the bottom and then it comes back on after a few minutes. Total lemon, I swore not to buy an apple laptop again.
Both my work macbook pro and my personal macbook air have keyboard issues. My personal skips or double hits the letter “e”, which has been a nightmare because I’ve been writing a book the whole time. My work laptop is worse, the command key doesn’t work most of the time. Sometimes I try to copy something, I’ll hit command-c and instead it’ll overwrite my selection with “c”. So I try to undo and hit command-z, so it’l…
Both my work macbook pro and my personal macbook air have keyboard issues. My personal skips or double hits the letter “e”, which has been a nightmare because I’ve been writing a book the whole time. My work laptop is worse, the command key doesn’t work most of the time. Sometimes I try to copy something, I’ll hit command-c and instead it’ll overwrite my selection with “c”. So I try to undo and hit command-z, so it’l…
Apple has very specific instructions on their website as to how to use an air duster to clean the keyboard: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205662 It works. Fixed my 'e' key, fixed my spacebar, fixed all of them. You have to hold it at weird angles but it works.
I actually blame Johnny Ive for this clusterf*ck. Ive famously pursued a crusade for thinness. It's said that design is the art of compromise. Well, Ive took a no compromises approach to thinness and it showed. Look no further than the 12" Macbook. One port (also needed for power), lower power CPU and (I believe?) the start of the dreaded butterfly keyboard. IIRC the butterfly keyboard's raison d'etre was to shave ha…
You can probably use the Ive/Jobs combination to describe evolution. Ive was the mutation source, Jobs was the selection filter. What makes evolution work is selection. Without selection you get crap. Mutation is just the noise you need to have something to apply (recombination and) selection to. It is hard to say how much post-Jobs was really Ive. But it was clear that Apple got really lost. And it does suggest that…
I find this an uncharitable view point. All sorts of creative work goes through a filter. Writers have editors, musicians have producers, actors have directors, programmers have other programmers. And when the filter fails (or dies), the result is bad.