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LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Honestly (ex-Riot Games, League of Legends contractor) I wondered how well the infrastructure choices for their login server would hold up. There was a huge amount of complexity involved in it, which is REALLY hard to get right. I just hope it wasn't code that I actually wrote that let them in. :) If I was betting, though, I would bet that it was a vulnerability in Adobe LiveCycle Data Services.

As far as I can see, they didn't hack game servers, they DDOS'ed them...

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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These attacks are annoying and damaging but in the long run they make our internet stronger. If these didn't happen so often people would care a lot less about security and robustness.

If these didn't happen so often people wouldn't need to. Why should Random Internet Game care about security aside from dicks like these guys?

Because people that actually want your credit card info, game source, etc aren't talking about it on the web. They're just doing it.

If you care about the integrity of your data, you damn well better care about your security.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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When they're attacking Sony it's "righteous" and "good", when they're attacking companies we like they're "bad" and "immature". They've always stated their intention is to create "lulz" and just do whatever damage they can, apparently people overlooked this when they were attacking people everyone "hated". Luckily Minecraft wasn't down for too long, some of us are directly affected by this stuff, sigh. The internet i…

These attacks are annoying and damaging but in the long run they make our internet stronger. If these didn't happen so often people would care a lot less about security and robustness.

The attacks on the Minecraft and EVE servers were DDOS attacks. Nothing sophisticated, and the easy way to avoid them is to just get more servers, which really isn't a good solution for smaller developers.

EDIT: I suspect the only reason they didn't succeed getting to Blizzard is because WoW was down for Tuesday maintenance.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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When they're attacking Sony it's "righteous" and "good", when they're attacking companies we like they're "bad" and "immature". They've always stated their intention is to create "lulz" and just do whatever damage they can, apparently people overlooked this when they were attacking people everyone "hated". Luckily Minecraft wasn't down for too long, some of us are directly affected by this stuff, sigh. The internet i…

These attacks are annoying and damaging but in the long run they make our internet stronger. If these didn't happen so often people would care a lot less about security and robustness.

Should I rob every house that doesn't have an alarm or leaves the window open?

I agree with you it "helps" to care more about security and robustness. But I don't agree in the way. I have a dream that one day my website with minimum security won't be hacked for lulz and will be treated with respect. =)

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

These attacks are annoying and damaging but in the long run they make our internet stronger. If these didn't happen so often people would care a lot less about security and robustness.

If these didn't happen so often people wouldn't need to. Why should Random Internet Game care about security aside from dicks like these guys?

You do understand that lulzsec is deliberately publicizing acts that would usually go untraced, right? Security is security: If you don't have any and you house information, you will eventually be burned.

Yes it's getting annoying, but they're doing it for the lulz. You can't say the same about all the other malicious hackers.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If these didn't happen so often people wouldn't need to. Why should Random Internet Game care about security aside from dicks like these guys?

Because people that actually want your credit card info, game source, etc aren't talking about it on the web. They're just doing it. If you care about the integrity of your data, you damn well better care about your security.

Absolutely true.

My credit card number was used from Turkey this week. I have absolutely no idea which website was compromised. And I am pretty sure that whoever was compromised has no idea either.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Something does not add up.... Notice that certain targets are avoided? What I mean by targets is that everything is low hanging fruit only..a sql injection here and sql injection there...nothing really highly skilled. Also targets missing from the list is heavy duty military and gov sites. For example, a low level FBI contractor was attacked not FBI itself, not CIA, non DoD,etc. The conclusion I come up with is that…

Or, Hanlon's Razor, LulzSec aren't magical security geniuses and they're taking low-hanging fruit precisely because it's low-hanging.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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What's to stop you? the government making it illegal to run hacking tools like "tor" (see the silk road/bitcoin post on HN from earlier) etc illegal and forcing your ISP to record any use of such and block you off the internet (see france's 3 strikes, you as a person are not allowed on the internet law) and report you and then possibly criminally prosecute you as well.

What you're suggesting is impossible. >the government making it illegal to run hacking tools like "tor" Do you think that there is nothing illegal that happens on the internet now ? How long was it illegal to export encryption? How many people actually cared? >forcing your ISP to record any use of such and block you off the internet The encryption standards that we all use are the same encryption standards that are r…

  > How long was it illegal to export encryption? How many
  > people actually cared?
The people that actually crossed borders to develop crypto software outside of the USA.

edit: change to past tense

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's to stop you? the government making it illegal to run hacking tools like "tor" (see the silk road/bitcoin post on HN from earlier) etc illegal and forcing your ISP to record any use of such and block you off the internet (see france's 3 strikes, you as a person are not allowed on the internet law) and report you and then possibly criminally prosecute you as well.

What you're suggesting is impossible. >the government making it illegal to run hacking tools like "tor" Do you think that there is nothing illegal that happens on the internet now ? How long was it illegal to export encryption? How many people actually cared? >forcing your ISP to record any use of such and block you off the internet The encryption standards that we all use are the same encryption standards that are r…

Taking Egypt as an example, their attempt was technically pretty successful. The problem that government had was political, and that was because it was a dictator enforcing it on his people without being able to convince the people that it was the right thing to do.

If the US Government were to bring it in as anti-terrorism laws, while some people wouldn't like it, it wouldn't cause riots on the streets and firefights between the army and the citizens.

Will the US try and do this? I doubt it. If they tried, would political opposition prevent them from getting it done? I think and hope so. But the point is that if it did happen, it wouldn't happen in the same way as Egypt, and so wouldn't face the same reaction. In Egypt, action preceded debate. In the US, if it ever happened, by that time the chance to prevent it would have been lost.

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