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LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Post by dexen »

itg wrote: post #8
pspeter3 wrote: post #2

Not that LulzSec has made sense up until now but why bother taking out online video games? I feel like that's alienating the population that would normally support or at least be indifferent about a group like LulzSec.

They were taking requests for ddos targets. I don't think they care who they piss off since it is all about the " lulz" to them.

> UPDATE: The group now claims to have taken down the League of Legends login servers as well as eight other sites requested by users phoning in.

Their claim is to have taken on phone-in DRM that pissed off users -- to the point the users wished the servers to crash and burn. Pretty much similar reasoning to Sony hacks, if you ask me...

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Post by Goladus »

pspeter3 wrote: post #2

Not that LulzSec has made sense up until now but why bother taking out online video games? I feel like that's alienating the population that would normally support or at least be indifferent about a group like LulzSec.

I think they want to project power. I don't think they want anyone to be indifferent about them.

Beyond that, it's almost impossible to know their motivations.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Post by blhack »

mindstab wrote: post #18
blhack wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep hearing this conspiracy theory pop up in almost every thread both here and on reddit about lulzsec's activities. Can somebody give me a "worst case" scenario for a government crackdown on the internet? What's to stop me from running tor? From VPNing out of the country myself ? How would this alleged crackdown affect me? And are you all new to the internet? Hacker groups like this have been around since...ever.…

What's to stop you? the government making it illegal to run hacking tools like "tor" (see the silk road/bitcoin post on HN from earlier) etc illegal and forcing your ISP to record any use of such and block you off the internet (see france's 3 strikes, you as a person are not allowed on the internet law) and report you and then possibly criminally prosecute you as well.

What you're suggesting is impossible.

>the government making it illegal to run hacking tools like "tor"

Do you think that there is nothing illegal that happens on the internet now? How long was it illegal to export encryption? How many people actually cared?

>forcing your ISP to record any use of such and block you off the internet

The encryption standards that we all use are the same encryption standards that are recommended by the NSA. Unless my ISP knows something that the rest of the world doesn't, it's functionally impossible for them to see what I'm doing if I'm either using tor, or tunneling out of the country on the back of a VPN.

Tor was invented by the NSA, by the way, for exactly this purpose.

Look at what Iran/Egypt/etc have done to try and crack down on internet usage. Or even China. Look at how successful that has been.

(It has been a failure)

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Post by rbanffy »

mindstab wrote: post #7
rbanffy wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would certainly explain how they managed to piss off so many people and still remain undetected.

public broadcaster one day government the next game servers the next trying to hit every demographic :/

Anyone willing to suggest something we could do?

Because the title on the top of this site will get very unpopular in the next couple weeks.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Post by Apocryphon »

pspeter3 wrote: post #6
Roritharr wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to be too cheezy, but i'd like to quote The Dark Knight here: "Some men just want to watch the world burn."

Valid point and a great quote. It's just hard to believe such people exist outside the realm of comic books.

The internet brings out the worst in people.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Post by Apocryphon »

I wonder if there's an ideological "faction" (not an actual group or organization) of Anon hackers, the ones behind the hacktivism (pro-Wikileaks, anti-dictators, anti-corruption in democracies), who feels like groups such as LulzSec are tarnishing the reforming image of Anonymous. Prior to this month, they were getting almost mainstream approval as supporters of liberation movements in the third world.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Post by shareme »

Something does not add up....

Notice that certain targets are avoided? What I mean by targets is that everything is low hanging fruit only..a sql injection here and sql injection there...nothing really highly skilled. Also targets missing from the list is heavy duty military and gov sites. For example, a low level FBI contractor was attacked not FBI itself, not CIA, non DoD,etc.

The conclusion I come up with is that LulzSec was infiltrated to get anonymous by government agents. After they get anonymous they might figure that they than have info on how to get wikileaks.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Post by lwat »

citricsquid wrote: post #19

When they're attacking Sony it's "righteous" and "good", when they're attacking companies we like they're "bad" and "immature". They've always stated their intention is to create "lulz" and just do whatever damage they can, apparently people overlooked this when they were attacking people everyone "hated". Luckily Minecraft wasn't down for too long, some of us are directly affected by this stuff, sigh. The internet i…

These attacks are annoying and damaging but in the long run they make our internet stronger. If these didn't happen so often people would care a lot less about security and robustness.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Post by blutonium »

Jach wrote: post #16

Why is this article suggesting people change their login details? Is this anything more than a ddos, have the servers actually been compromised? Or is it a warning to change before they get compromised?

Better safe than sorry. After the DDoS, CCP took the entirety of EVE down to do a security audit. Minecraft seems sure that it was only a DDoS, but they don't personal details on their servers like CCP does.

Re: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Minecraft, League of Legends and other Servers

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Post by Cushman »

lwat wrote: post #28
citricsquid wrote: post #19

When they're attacking Sony it's "righteous" and "good", when they're attacking companies we like they're "bad" and "immature". They've always stated their intention is to create "lulz" and just do whatever damage they can, apparently people overlooked this when they were attacking people everyone "hated". Luckily Minecraft wasn't down for too long, some of us are directly affected by this stuff, sigh. The internet i…

These attacks are annoying and damaging but in the long run they make our internet stronger. If these didn't happen so often people would care a lot less about security and robustness.

If these didn't happen so often people wouldn't need to. Why should Random Internet Game care about security aside from dicks like these guys?
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