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Why use old computers and operating systems?

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Re: Why use old computers and operating systems?

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post #123

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Plus, if you give them a $1000 laptop, they'll sell it, buy a cheap phone, and use the remainder to buy something that serves a more pressing need.

That means somebody bought it - presumably someone who doesn't have any other computing device and wasn't awarded one. Also, $1000 is way too much, I was thinking in terms of $150.

Everything old is new again https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Laptop_per_Child

Re: Why use old computers and operating systems?

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Related to this: one of the very few good reasons to offer unencrypted HTTP is that in some parts of the world, old devices are in widespread use, and support for modern HTTPS cannot be taken for granted.

And older phones might have certificate stores that can't be upgraded and have already expired.

Or the server only accepts modern ciphers or TLS.

I took a deep dive into this after I was unable to access my blog on my iOS 6 device. I concluded that I don't really need a ssllab's A. It is much more likely someone will try visiting my blog with a older device than someone will MITM one of the visitors.

https://blog.nyman.re/2021/02/07/usability-security.html

Re: Why use old computers and operating systems?

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post #23

I recently inherited a 32-bit laptop that runs Vista, any recommendations of what version of Linux to try?

I had a great experience with https://q4os.org/ (and its Windows skin).

It's feels like a modern Windows XP.

But I must admit I have not used it for much work, but the feeling of playing around with it was great.

Re: Why use old computers and operating systems?

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post #142

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And older phones might have certificate stores that can't be upgraded and have already expired.

Or the server only accepts modern ciphers or TLS. I took a deep dive into this after I was unable to access my blog on my iOS 6 device. I concluded that I don't really need a ssllab's A. It is much more likely someone will try visiting my blog with a older device than someone will MITM one of the visitors. https://blog.nyman.re/2021/02/07/usability-security.html

Interesting write up, thanks for sharing it.

Re: Why use old computers and operating systems?

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post #117

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Modern hardware has allowed us to ignore bad/inefficient coding. That aside from the need to compute larger data sets is the ONLY reason we keep needing more RAM and CPU with every coming year. If software companies would stop rebuilding everything from scratch as a product model and instead do it only when absolutely necessary and just work on improving the EXISTING software, most things could run on an OS with 2G o…

This would drive down developer costs though wouldn't it?

Depends on the type of developer. With the increase in high level frameworks there are a lot of developers who never learn why the code they are using is bad. Development of anything is rarely involved in the libraries they use. They just import a blob and make it do stuff. A lot of times sites and web apps are scraped together from crap from stack overflow and it just barely works. There have been many cases of core library developers doing something stupid and avoidable that slows all resulting programs down.

Re: Why use old computers and operating systems?

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That means somebody bought it - presumably someone who doesn't have any other computing device and wasn't awarded one. Also, $1000 is way too much, I was thinking in terms of $150.

Everything old is new again https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Laptop_per_Child

Indeed. But look at the specs of that computer - any raspberry pi is way more powerful than this. That's the point - the technology today enables meaningful change, back then it was only a dream because the device was too expensive and underpowered
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