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Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF
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#752Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The commented pedophilia was the allegated one of Marvin Minsky with a 17 yo girl, No, it was a comment in response to a group of Dutch pedophiles forming a political party with the stated goal of first reducing the age of consent for sex to 12, and eventually eliminating it altogether. What Minsky was accused of is sex with someone post-pubescent but below the age of consent, which isn't an act indicative of pedop…
> someone post-pubescent but below the age of consent I think an adult having sexual acts with a minor is not good because of the power imbalance. At the time of the act, the age of consent in that jurisdiction was 16 [0], so the person was not below the age of consent. It has since been changed to 18. I’m not agreeing with having a low age of consent, but since that’s a legal term, I’m posting this just to help you…
"Crossing state lines to have sexual relations invokes federal law. The federal age of consent is 18."[1]
[1] https://www.cwsdefense.com/blog/2020/january/state-lines-and...
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#753Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think it's unreasonable to interpret "I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children" as a suggestion that there are circumstances under which paedophilia is OK. Suggesting that someone doing so is willfully, blatantly lying seems like an unsupported claim.
The problem is that pedophilia has a much wider meaning in the USA that in many other parts of the world. I do not believe that any sane human being believes that pedophilia in the sense understood by himself/herself is OK in any circumstances. Nevertheless there are millions or billions of humans who do not consider as pedophilia some acts that are considered pedophilia in USA, therefore they consider that those act…
Stallman was talking about actual children.[1]
[1] https://stallman.org/notes/2019-jan-apr.html#25_April_2019_(...
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I would disagree with his rhetorical stylings whether or not he had autism, and probably wouldn't change much in the way of how I disagreed or really talked about him. > publicly sharing that private medical information Are we gonna side-step the fact that he's publicly stated in several interviews that he suspects that he's on the spectrum, or nah? > make you start treating him as an actual human being In what way h…
> In what way have I not? Publicly speculating about medical diagnoses, for one thing.
I'm not speculating about medical diagnosis, I'm speculating on public statements from the man himself.
Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF
#755Earlier quoted context omitted.
The worst part is that the blog post that started a lot of that literally quoted RMS one sentence and the rephrased it as something completely different in the very next sentence. And nobody called them out for it. He basically just said "Minsky may not have known because Epstein most likely forced the girl into acting as if her was willing" (paraphrased from memory) and it got turned into "RMS said the girl was will…
Those who read the extensive threads back in 2019 will remember that Minsky, at the time, commented to one of his associates about the interaction with the young woman. That’s how Stallman heard of it. And, further, there is no evidence that Minsky took any further action relative to her. Quite the contrary - he seemed bemused by the situation. Some of the discussion in these threads strongly implies that Minsky had…
Source please?
Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF
#756I think it is strange that, on the one hand, the tech world has been advocating for the rights of neurodivergent people – society should accept that people on the autism spectrum are different and that’s OK. But at the same time RMS has been attacked for some statements very probably stemming from his autism that, while they may seem a bit shocking and at odds with the mainstream, were not illegal or intentionally of…
I've always been against this scarlet letter mentality that seems pervasive. I've also been vocally against RMS's particular brand of outreach as being incredibly alienating of the people whose opinions he actually needs to address. Admittedly, if he does have autism there's a ton of things that start to make sense, speaking from my own experiences with and around it, but I can't actually find a reference to any conf…
He called himself borderline autistic in 2000 but said it was an exaggeration in 2008.[1]
[1] https://www.computerworld.com/article/2551458/asperger-s-oxy...
Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF
#757Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're completely confused. What constitutes the right thing is specific to culture. Culture a lot of components (nationality/ethnicity, professional culture, neurodiversity, etc.). You're imposing your value system on Richard. You're being called on it, and you're doubling down, which is exactly what you fault Richard for. Two posts in, you should know better. From within Richard's cultural frame, he's doing the rig…
I'm not sure why you're still harping on about culture, as if Richard hasn't misbehaved and offended people everywhere he's been. And don't conflate his personal behaviour with "tactics for achieving change".
Because you still don't understand, on an underlying level, what culture is, how people differ from each other, or how to accommodate that diversity. I'm trying to help you by at least pointing you in the right direction, but I'm close to giving up. It's Dunning-Kruger (which is not an insult and not uncommon in this domain) -- you're unaware of what you don't know.
My experience is the international business community has generally done the best work here, since they needed to create organizations which work across cultures, and that's difficult if all employees take the type of myopic view you're taking. Good starting points include Hofstede, the Culture Shock series, Neurotribes, as well as Googling "[insert-country-name] business culture" (the country should NOT be Western or Southern Europe, which are too similar to the US).
If you choose to go down that route, it will take a few years, but it will make you more successful in your career, and a better person in your personal life.
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I relate because I've been there, I think. Before I transitioned I had pretty strong ASD and couldn't figure out how to answer simple questions like "what's up?" or if I should wave to someone I've met twice if they're 15 feet away walking towards me. Transitioning did something to my brain chemistry and let me read social cues nearly overnight, but I got friends by delving into the LGBT community. Maybe furry cons i…
Wh...a. Transitioning fixed your social cue perception?! That is incredibly fascinating. I'm not even sure how to classify that... pragmatic psychological function (oookay that's probably not a thing), neurobiology, or what else. IMO this is a gigantic breadcrumb for Something™. The question is what the axis point was, and what got fixed as a result. Cooool. I am very curious what else shifted that you'd be happy to…
I have no idea why it happened, I'm just so grateful it did. It was like suddenly seeing color for the first time. When I looked at someone, I could read their intentions and actually feel their feelings. I wasn't a sociopath before or anything, but I couldn't feel empathy.
This definitely does not happen to every aspie trans woman, but I've heard of it happening to one or two others.
I was worried about losing my intelligence, since I attributed a lot of that to ASD, but actually all my major breakthroughs came after transitioning. My first algorithm that got me noticed was like, 6 months in.
The only real downside was that switching to estrogen unmasked my Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, and I've become physically disabled. I'm still able to work and think and feel so it's a good trade for me!
Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF
#759Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ribbonfarm called this a couple years ago: https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2018/03/06/a-quick-battle-field-g... Specifically battlefront #8. He calls it consequential because the the neurodivergent/PC conflict highlights an inherent paradox in the PC worldview. Most applications of political correctness focus (at least on the surface) on defending a marginalized group against the verbal attacks of a privileged one. When a…
The thing to note is that the worldview of social justice advocates is not "advocate for all oppressed groups", it's "advocate for all oppressed groups up to intersectionality ". At least in America, we used to go through phases of, say, black power groups being kinda sexist, and women's liberation movements being hella racist. This poses a unique opportunity for people who oppose both: just use one to harm the other…
Could it be that social justice warriors are the autistic assholes? In my experience, people who promote social justice tend to be assholes.
Re: Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF
#760Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm getting on aside note on a side note already but this bumps into something I've been thinking about for days now so I can't resist. I'm beginning to think the swearing thing in the U.S. has to do with a perception of the concept of "innocence". Because I've noticed a lot of people only begin to have a problem with swearing here when it involves children. For sure, there are people who are just generally against s…
I think the word you're looking for might be "puritanism".
Yes but a little more specifically, a kind of reactionary puritanism. In that it is triggered as a reaction to entering family life and not driven by a set of consistent lifelong values.