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As U.S. schools shuttered, student mental health cratered, survey finds

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Re: As U.S. schools shuttered, student mental health cratered, survey finds

#61
Strong support for rapid testing could have gotten schools open much sooner and probably prevented hundreds of thousands of deaths.

But unfortunately this was largely overlooked by the general public, and the cheapest tests that could do the most good are still not approved by the FDA.

https://www.rapidtests.org/

Re: As U.S. schools shuttered, student mental health cratered, survey finds

#62

Anyone else find it strange that a country that has often fallen in line with "think of the children" arguments for hypothetical dangers appears to be completely uncaring about very real dangers of social isolation that are impacting our youth?

It's horrifying how we've allowed politicians to inflict collective punishment on our children for over a year. The data is clear that COVID-19 is less dangerous to children than seasonal influenza.

Re: As U.S. schools shuttered, student mental health cratered, survey finds

#63

Anyone else find it strange that a country that has often fallen in line with "think of the children" arguments for hypothetical dangers appears to be completely uncaring about very real dangers of social isolation that are impacting our youth?

I don't know if you live in the US but for anyone who doesn't I think this mainly boils down to this: the average US citizen does not believe metal health issues are real. In high school I've met people who were clearly suicidal and I've seen the advice given to them: "Just go outside more" or "you don't have anything to be sad about". One of my friends was depressed and suicidal through high school. He often acted o…

This was my experience growing up. I was suicidal by fourth grade. I was told by the school consular it was my fault that I was being bullied and was feeling bad about myself.

My parents’ solution was to take me to a Christian consular who didn’t really help the situation.

All of my symptoms of being bipolar were explained as my deliberate choice to be a unrepentant, sinful child.

I didn’t see a proper psychiatrist until I was 33. My mom figured something was wrong because my uncle was bipolar and it’s genetic. Didn’t tell me that until I was diagnosed.

Probably because my dad thinks my bipolar uncle is demon-possessed.

Many other people in my support group have similar stories. If anything, I was one of the lucky ones since my parents were otherwise very supportive.

Re: As U.S. schools shuttered, student mental health cratered, survey finds

#64
That was the reason I decided to go in debt to pay for private schools.

Not only my kid was able to go to real live class but was more social and not isolated.

Is it worth it?

Well I have 40K in Debt.

My values are that it is worth.

Now working 2-3 jobs to pay it all.

Re: As U.S. schools shuttered, student mental health cratered, survey finds

#65

Teachers' unions saw an opening and they took it. The fact that private schools in SF have been open for so long safely with no public schools open should tell you all you need to know. I, for one, love it. When you're on this side of the wealth spectrum, an expanding gap lifts your ship and sinks the other guy. And I'm all for the pursuit of sheer greed. If other people want to hamstring themselves for whatever reas…

Wow. Maybe you didn’t intend this (or maybe you’re just trolling??) but this comment comes across as one of the most callous and tone-deaf things I have ever read. Like, Ebenezer Scrooge level. Families who can’t afford to send their children to private schools are clearly negatively affected by this through basically no fault of their own, and I cannot understand why you choose applaud that. Maybe consider deleting this.

Re: As U.S. schools shuttered, student mental health cratered, survey finds

#66

Anyone else find it strange that a country that has often fallen in line with "think of the children" arguments for hypothetical dangers appears to be completely uncaring about very real dangers of social isolation that are impacting our youth?

They were balancing it against what they saw in Italy: allowing the virus to get out of hand and overwhelm the hospital system and your death rate from covid jumps into the double digits. Kids would be pretty depressed being surrounded by a 8 digit body count in the US too.

> Kids would be pretty depressed being surrounded by a 8 digit body count in the US too.

Let’s make sure they’re depressed when their brains are irreversibly stunted from missing the crucial social interactions necessary for development.

Also, let’s pile on the misery with a generation of kids with stunted literacy. Good luck teaching reading with a freaking mask on.

It’s indefensible.

Re: As U.S. schools shuttered, student mental health cratered, survey finds

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post #62

Anyone else find it strange that a country that has often fallen in line with "think of the children" arguments for hypothetical dangers appears to be completely uncaring about very real dangers of social isolation that are impacting our youth?

It's horrifying how we've allowed politicians to inflict collective punishment on our children for over a year. The data is clear that COVID-19 is less dangerous to children than seasonal influenza.

They can still bring it home to parents, grandparents, and the general community. It’s silly to dismiss the indirect effects as if they don’t exist.

Re: As U.S. schools shuttered, student mental health cratered, survey finds

#68

Anyone else find it strange that a country that has often fallen in line with "think of the children" arguments for hypothetical dangers appears to be completely uncaring about very real dangers of social isolation that are impacting our youth?

They were balancing it against what they saw in Italy: allowing the virus to get out of hand and overwhelm the hospital system and your death rate from covid jumps into the double digits. Kids would be pretty depressed being surrounded by a 8 digit body count in the US too.

Do you have any proof that that would have increased depression rates in children relative to what we see today?

And an 8 digit body count would be impossible in the US for a disease with a >99% survival rate. So quit the hyperbole.

Re: As U.S. schools shuttered, student mental health cratered, survey finds

#69
On the other side, 10 million kids may never go back to school in the developing countries after pandemic. Probably good for the underground textile shops dressing up the ones who can work from home.

https://www.savethechildren.net/news/almost-10-million-child...

Re: As U.S. schools shuttered, student mental health cratered, survey finds

#70
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US federal gov’t spends about 3x as much on those over the age of 65 than it does those under the age of 18 (including transfer payments to parents of those children)[0]. Personally, I think that should be flipped, but kid’s don’t vote. [0] https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/ftpdocs/23x...

US spending more than average OECD country on education in relative terms (GDP) and even more in absolute terms due to higher GDP It's just that high absolute amount of medicare spending throws off the comparison. https://www.oecd.org/els/soc/PF1_2_Public_expenditure_educat...

If you throw money at a black hole, and put the expenditures under the "education" column, that's where it will be counted. You should see the inane &#@* they buy, and the volumes of it they purchase.
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