Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser for user privacy

Post by littlestymaar » Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 1:04 PM UTC

sbuk wrote: post #239

littlestymaar wrote: post #49

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> c) isn’t sold to or used in any adtech bs What makes you think so? Because the privacy policies you agreed on allows them to (in the the Apple’s Sharing of Personal Data section): >Partners. At times, Apple may partner with third parties to provide services or other offerings. Yes, that's it (there is an “Example” section following, but this is non-binding). Any kind of partner, for any kind of “other offering”. Pa…

The difference, of course, is that if I message someone about an iPhone in messages.app, I'm not inundated with "targeted" ads for phones everywhere I go. Or, if I'm talking to someone about a recipe, my devices don't suddenly start displaying recipes (looking at you, Echo). Anonymized analytics, the type that Apple are informing you about in that document, are fine. Searching the App Store for a productivity app and…

Post by Redoubts » Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 1:09 PM UTC

hyko wrote: post #116

bleachedsleet wrote: post #37

I love Safari as a browser, but I hate the fact that it neuters the web and makes it feel much less powerful. Web Bluetooth and webUSB are ignored by Safari and unsupported. Notification support is lacking last I checked. No PWA functionality to speak of and webNFC won’t be added. Extensions are lacking largely due to being basically native apps that bring with them all the cost and overhead of being such. As a brows…

Web Bluetooth and webUSB Hard to tell without looking if these things are real or a parody!

Post by lotsofpulp » Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 1:30 PM UTC

paulmd wrote: post #105

bleachedsleet wrote: post #37

I love Safari as a browser, but I hate the fact that it neuters the web and makes it feel much less powerful. Web Bluetooth and webUSB are ignored by Safari and unsupported. Notification support is lacking last I checked. No PWA functionality to speak of and webNFC won’t be added. Extensions are lacking largely due to being basically native apps that bring with them all the cost and overhead of being such. As a brows…

The only thing I really miss on Safari is a good adblocker. Everything else is fine, I don't use my mobile browser the way I do on desktop.

Post by yunohn » Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 2:07 PM UTC

sbuk wrote: post #237

luckylion wrote: post #211

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I'm still struggling to find out the non-cult reason for "the feature must be banned from the browser, just being able to disable it for all time with a single click is not enough".

It'll be the same reason as the "cult" of "what I want should be the norm and anyone who disagrees, for whatever reason, must be in a cult"

Post by katbyte » Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 2:22 PM UTC

endless1234 wrote: post #163

Google234 wrote: post #142

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You don’t get it, 100s of billion of these notifications have been shown already to users on desktop with a less than 1% accept rate. These are spam .

What a weird argument. We're not talking about suspicious blogospam sites asking for notification access here. By the same token, most email sent is spam. Should we stop using email? Spammy notification requests should be mitigated with better browser guards for requesting them. The fact that there is spam does not somehow invalidate that there are legitimate use cases people want them for.