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WhatsApp Down in Some Regions
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#82Decentralized services like Matrix - anyone? No, let's continue relying on a single centralized service for the whole world.
This isn't the panacea you think it is. For example, on iOS all server notifications for an app must be proxied via Apple and have to come from the app developer's push certificate. This means that even with Element (the matrix client) all of your notifications when your phone is locked are going from your server to the centralized dev push system run by the Element devs, then to another centralized system run by App…
Additionally to the other user, I would like to add that
1) Notifications being down is a smaller problem than the service not working at all.
2) there are indeed alternative push systems that allow plugging different push systems (see Unified Push - though not yet supported by Element)
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#83this is exactly why we need 1000000 different messaging apps lol
that, or just one app that uses multiple pathways and protocols to get the message across
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
You mean all products owned by the same company, most likely hosted in the same data centers and with the same infra?
Conspiracy theorists can see whatever they want mixed in the noise.
Any day now they will find out which company is behind all three apps.
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#85Let's not get overexcited ... they will probably come back up again.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
It does indeed solve a part of the problem. > There is no single point of control or failure in a Matrix conversation which spans multiple servers: the act of communication with someone elsewhere in Matrix shares ownership of the conversation equally with them. Even if your server goes offline, the conversation can continue uninterrupted elsewhere until it returns. https://matrix.org/ So right now, if you're trying t…
Lets be honest, most users right now use the main matrix server. Anyways there is atleast an option to use own servers.
it's simply not true - according to Matthew it is around a third
Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions
#87Decentralized services like Matrix - anyone? No, let's continue relying on a single centralized service for the whole world.
This isn't the panacea you think it is. For example, on iOS all server notifications for an app must be proxied via Apple and have to come from the app developer's push certificate. This means that even with Element (the matrix client) all of your notifications when your phone is locked are going from your server to the centralized dev push system run by the Element devs, then to another centralized system run by App…
Then we need to decentralize notifications (or better, to do away with them).
We actually decentralized them decades ago, it's called email
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
This isn't the panacea you think it is. For example, on iOS all server notifications for an app must be proxied via Apple and have to come from the app developer's push certificate. This means that even with Element (the matrix client) all of your notifications when your phone is locked are going from your server to the centralized dev push system run by the Element devs, then to another centralized system run by App…
This comes from from someone who enjoys the convenience of centralized services, but that honestly sounds to me like an argument for decentralization of mobile notifications too, not a refutation of the idea of decentralized messaging.
"We" can't decentralize notifications on iOS, only Apple can. It's not in their interest to do so (battery life, platform brand control via censorship), so it's probably a moot point.
It's better to choose a fight you can win.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
This isn't the panacea you think it is. For example, on iOS all server notifications for an app must be proxied via Apple and have to come from the app developer's push certificate. This means that even with Element (the matrix client) all of your notifications when your phone is locked are going from your server to the centralized dev push system run by the Element devs, then to another centralized system run by App…
Then we need to decentralize notifications (or better, to do away with them). We actually decentralized them decades ago, it's called email