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Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions

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Post by hans1729 »

capableweb wrote: post #31
hans1729 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>(xn--allestrungen-9ib.de) >whats the problem just no

You want to explain the problem or just shit on something you don't understand? I thought we were all here to learn and discuss with good intentions, but seems you're not...

Can you not make this an "blablabla ad hominem blabla"? It is absolutely obvious why this is terrible behaviour: the url that's previewed simply doesn't match the one you'd type in the address bar. The encoding is messed up despite Umlaute being part of utf8, and if you're parsing HN with your own code, you're in trouble because you need to account for encoding, which simply shouldn't be a thing in 2021. "HN should be about ideas, so instead I'll make this about you" is not just wasting every readers energy, it's blatant projection and beyond embarassing. PLEASE don't do this here.

Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions

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Post by capableweb »

justapassenger wrote: post #45
capableweb wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't help either that Facebook made three separate services that should have nothing to do with each other, talk to each other and all route their traffic through the same infrastructure. What they did was purposefully remove redundancy they had, in order to be able to track people more (in order to profit more) and possibly scale easier. Doing nothing would have been easier but yet they still did it.

If you think that maintaining 3 completely separate stacks for 3 different services within the same company is making all of them more reliable, I don't think you ever worked on a big scale services.

No, I'm hinting at that have one company running these three services in the first place is wrong. Should be three independent companies as they are really three different services, but lord knows governments does nothing to prevent monopolies these days.

Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions

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Post by bananaface »

justapassenger wrote: post #45
capableweb wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't help either that Facebook made three separate services that should have nothing to do with each other, talk to each other and all route their traffic through the same infrastructure. What they did was purposefully remove redundancy they had, in order to be able to track people more (in order to profit more) and possibly scale easier. Doing nothing would have been easier but yet they still did it.

If you think that maintaining 3 completely separate stacks for 3 different services within the same company is making all of them more reliable, I don't think you ever worked on a big scale services.

Facebook took $85 billion in revenue last year and has thousands of developers on the payroll. They could absolutely maintain 3 separate services.

Bear in mind WhatsApp used to maintain a userbase of 200 million with 50 total employees (not even just developers).

Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions

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Post by sneak »

justin4all wrote: post #41

Decentralized services like Matrix - anyone? No, let's continue relying on a single centralized service for the whole world.

This isn't the panacea you think it is. For example, on iOS all server notifications for an app must be proxied via Apple and have to come from the app developer's push certificate.

This means that even with Element (the matrix client) all of your notifications when your phone is locked are going from your server to the centralized dev push system run by the Element devs, then to another centralized system run by Apple.

Either could have an outage, although I think APNS (the apple side) has close to 100% uptime since launch, which is quite a feat.

Re: WhatsApp Down in Some Regions

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Post by marcodiego »

Daishiman wrote: post #25
marcodiego wrote: post #17

Down in Brazil too together with instagram and facebook. More food for conspiracy theorists...

You mean all products owned by the same company, most likely hosted in the same data centers and with the same infra?

Conspiracy theorists can see whatever they want mixed in the noise.
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