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Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine

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Re: Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine

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Astra Zeneca says it's less than 40 cases in 17 million. Are those numbers accurate? That seems like quite a small population affected.

Sort of the theme with Covid ultimately. I’m curious who will have the guts to re-examine the global shutdown as an exaggerated reaction as we go forward.

Have zero faith in the current generations that are adults. It will have to be future generations that can think clearly without judgement.

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Based on all the information provided in this article, this article is premature to publish. The headline is accurate, as 'experts say', but lack of any independent support of data supporting the claim, makes this dubious (at best) to publish at this point.

"See, look, they knew it was dangerous but the MSM suppressed it."

If you don't publish you feed conspiracy theorists. Better to transparently publish the information that you have.

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Based on all the information provided in this article, this article is premature to publish. The headline is accurate, as 'experts say', but lack of any independent support of data supporting the claim, makes this dubious (at best) to publish at this point.

>It's not real until I think it's politically expedient for it to be real

Re: Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine

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Sort of the theme with Covid ultimately. I’m curious who will have the guts to re-examine the global shutdown as an exaggerated reaction as we go forward.

Have zero faith in the current generations that are adults. It will have to be future generations that can think clearly without judgement.

How are you going to get those future generations to think clearly without judgment? The same things that afflict the thinking of the current adults will afflict the next generations when they are adults.

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Not specifically in relation to this latest Norwegian claim, but an excellent backgrounder on the blood clot problem: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/03/it-s-very-special-pi...

Thank you, this article has actual real information.

>this article doesn't challenge my worldview, so suddenly facts exist again

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A few weeks after my dad had a covid vaccine he had several seizures, which have continued to happen. On top of that, nearly 3 weeks into hospital and he caught covid. At least the vaccine worked and that's mostly sorted. MRI says he has suffered catastrophic brain damage and is about to be released for palative care for the last Now importantly - I don't know which vaccine he had (and I'm certainly not going to both…

I'm sorry to hear about your father's suffering. However I feel it's important for you to sound an alarm to the relevant doctors and/or public health units if you feel there's a link between his seizures and the vaccine. Whether or not it was the AZ vaccine or not..

They know he had the vaccine and they know his medical history far more than I do - I'm not a medical expert, they are.

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Is it really so crazy to think that these vaccines which were (necessarily) rushed to production might have problems? The solution is not to just shut our eyes and say “well COVID is worse”. We have to understand the risks to administer the right vaccine to people with risk factors, and so we know how to treat the conditions that result.

I don't think anyone is shutting their eyes to the risk. COVID is worse and a lot more people out there have risk factors associated with COVID than have risk factors associated with the AZ vaccine. We can do both here: investigate these reports while continuing to fight back COVID.

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I saw the description by the doctor who treated the person who died here in Norway. He called it a "catastrophe in the brain" [1] and the life just could not be saved. It sounds really nasty. Blood clots + low blood plate count at the same time. [1] https://www.nrk.no/norge/innlagt-helsearbeider-dode-_-unders...

A few weeks after my dad had a covid vaccine he had several seizures, which have continued to happen. On top of that, nearly 3 weeks into hospital and he caught covid. At least the vaccine worked and that's mostly sorted. MRI says he has suffered catastrophic brain damage and is about to be released for palative care for the last Now importantly - I don't know which vaccine he had (and I'm certainly not going to both…

That's awful. I'm sorry for you and your family.

"He's suffered from seizures for the last few years, although those normally follow infections and high temperatures"

A vaccine will certainly cause the body to fight the perceived infection, including with high temperatures for some people. It's possible given his history those vaccine side effects should have been considered?

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> we found specific antibodies against blood platelets So are they claiming that this is actually due to the vaccine formulation itself, i.e. does this finding exclude the initial hypothesis of a Quality issue or a specific 'bad batch' of the vaccine?

the news article doesn't say; it attributes a quote to the doctor saying "it's the vaccine" but it's unclear whether that means "bad batch". Personally, if 3 health workers all go to the same hospital in a remote region complaining of clots, it's more likely that something local happened (as you say, QA, or any number of other sources).

It‘s not local, there have been similar cases in Germany and Italy, with confirmed deaths.

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So why not prescribe aspirin until say a month after the second dose.

Because aspirin has no meaningful impact on as severe an autoimmune platelet implosion as is described in these cases.

Ah so its not just thickening of the blood then fair enough.
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