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Re: Show HN: Attract more customers by highlighting why people trust you

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Post by Jamiehan »

paxys wrote: post #60
exolymph wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uh, you absolutely can, unless the account is locked. All the person who tweeted can do is delete the tweet. You can embed any tweet anywhere you feel like (and actually the embed won't fully disappear when the tweet is deleted, but I digress).

This is somewhat of a legal gray area, but courts have ruled in the copyright owner's favor in a few cases like this (see https://tingenwilliams.com/2020/does-embedding-a-tweet-count... ). If I post a picture on Twitter, sites other than Twitter aren't free to use it regardless of whether they are rehosting or embedding it.

Yea but if you embed it (e.g. iframe), then do you technically need permission? I would expect, and hope so, but it could be a grey area again.

Re: Show HN: Attract more customers by highlighting why people trust you

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Post by newman8r »

amelius wrote: post #15
markdown wrote: post #8

Am I understanding right that this is just a testimonials feature with the limitation that it only shows tweets? If so, I don't understand why one would pay $15/month for this when you can just embed tweets in any html page or CMS for free.

Also, you can't just pull tweets from the web and show them as testimonials. You will need to ask the sender for permission. (I would personally hate it if my tweets were pulled out of context and used like this for commercial purposes, without my consent.)

Agreed. Even if it's legal I'd be upset. I'd sever my relationship with the company and maybe post a negative review warning people not to post positive reviews.

Re: Show HN: Attract more customers by highlighting why people trust you

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Post by nonameiguess »

motoxpro wrote: post #25
amelius wrote: post #10

So, selective reviews?

Social proof is to give credibility, reviews are to make decisions. This is for social proof. Also, by definition social proof is positive or else it wouldn't be valuable. It's an easier way to source all of those testimonials that people have on their website and really cool because it shows that people "like me" value the product. If they do their job right, you could have a testimonial that is more valueable than…

Social proof just means herd behavior where animals that don't know what to do in some novel situation simply take cues from their peers and do what everyone else is doing. There is nothing at all inherently positive about that. Just in humans, mob behavior, witch burning and pitchforks and all that, are all examples of people acting on social proof.

In fact, the exact opposite concept of this could exist, scrape Twitter for consumers to show them who they shouldn't do business with, and it would still be social proof.

Re: Show HN: Attract more customers by highlighting why people trust you

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Post by nonameiguess »

verdverm wrote: post #40
sharath39 wrote: post #23

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We believe the same. In the age of information overload building credibility on the Internet is tough. That's why we are building Shoutout. It will dig the unbiased positive shoutouts and help creators, startups build credibility.

If it's just positive reviews on a website, i skip it as low information. Tweet compilations actually decrease trust for me if they are on a website. Twitter sucks overall and bringing obviously filtered tweets is a turnoff. As a consumer in both business and general, I want third parties who give unbiased reviews, covering multiple vendors / products which solve my problem. This is why genuine influencer marketing i…

Agree with this strongly. If Steve from Gamers Nexus, Jeff from Athlean X, Wendell from L1 Techs, Greg from Stronger by Science, say a product is good, I'll believe it. I've followed them for years and know them and trust them. Random Twitter users, no matter how many there appear to be, not so much.

How does this filter even assure that these are real accounts and not bots or a Serbian click farm selling positive impressions?

Re: Show HN: Attract more customers by highlighting why people trust you

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Post by Nextgrid »

verdverm wrote: post #38
TeMPOraL wrote: post #24

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> It will dig the unbiased positive shoutouts If you filter for positive shoutouts only, the result becomes strongly biased by definition :).

This right here, this is what OP is failing to understand.

It's hard to make someone understand something when their salary depends on not understanding it.

Re: Show HN: Attract more customers by highlighting why people trust you

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Post by sharath39 »

tommoor wrote: post #65

I built exactly this for Buffer maybe 8 years ago now, and amazingly a version of it still stands today: https://buffer.com/love Definitely a nice page to have on your site, I guess the fact that it's lasted this long (well after I left the company) means it must still be showing value. Quite simple on the backend, it just pulls in tweets that the official Buffer account as fav'd on an hourly basis.

Wow! I buffer pioneered many things, a wall of love one among them! The only beef I have is, the page loads so slow because of Twitter embeds. That's where Shoutout outcompetes Twitter.

Our embeds loads ridiculously fast!

Re: Show HN: Attract more customers by highlighting why people trust you

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Post by sharath39 »

Jamiehan wrote: post #70
sharath39 wrote: post #44

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We use Paddle and it takes care of the currency when you enable the feature. Actually my technical co-founder is better to answer this question.

Do you convert the price for each location / currency to a round number, or do you keep it as a straight conversion? E.g. Picking a $15 USD plan in the UK would bill me for £10.80, and fluctuate each month.

Paddle take care of everything.

Re: Show HN: Attract more customers by highlighting why people trust you

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Post by sharath39 »

abinaya_rl wrote: post #66

We are a proud user of this product. It's been realy fast compared to the Twitter embeds. If you embed more than 10 tweets Twitter script becomes very slow and this product makes it faster. Really appreciate the team.

Thanks for the shoutout Abhinaya! Glad to have you as our user.

Re: Show HN: Attract more customers by highlighting why people trust you

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Post by verdverm »

nonameiguess wrote: post #74
verdverm wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's just positive reviews on a website, i skip it as low information. Tweet compilations actually decrease trust for me if they are on a website. Twitter sucks overall and bringing obviously filtered tweets is a turnoff. As a consumer in both business and general, I want third parties who give unbiased reviews, covering multiple vendors / products which solve my problem. This is why genuine influencer marketing i…

Agree with this strongly. If Steve from Gamers Nexus, Jeff from Athlean X, Wendell from L1 Techs, Greg from Stronger by Science, say a product is good, I'll believe it. I've followed them for years and know them and trust them. Random Twitter users, no matter how many there appear to be, not so much. How does this filter even assure that these are real accounts and not bots or a Serbian click farm selling positive im…

Step 1, buy tweets for reviews

Step 2, use tweets for marketing

Re: Show HN: Attract more customers by highlighting why people trust you

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Post by dstik »

sharath39 wrote: post #34
dstik wrote: post #29

Very clever - great idea and execution. Embedding positive tweets is something we've wanted to add to our site for a long time but it's so annoying/tedious to put together on your own, this it awesome. Thanks for creating and sharing!

Awesome to hear that. I'm so glad you loved the our idea and the product. Would love to see a wall of love for Circles for Zoom. Btw big fan of what you are building!

Thank you! I have your product on my list of tasks, so expect one soon!
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