What a weird and useless take, all the yt commenters in there, "yeah!!
GitHub, fuck your name change
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#762I'm Asian, wasn't born in America and didn't grew up in America as well. I don't have a horse in this race. I don't feel annoyed to change that term. I'm only annoyed if someone guilt trip me if I don't change the name out of ignorance (i.e, I don't follow politics, no time for social media). I don't think I have any bias against women or minority in tech. Changing main or master or slave doesn't ring a bell or evoke…
yes many people today are tuned to parse your sentences as making value judgements about specific classes, races, or genders.
I've been working to help correct this misconception through careful writing.
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#763I want to share my own reactions to the name change since this is a really interesting topic. For context, I'm an African American, so many of my ancestors were slaves. - The first time it occurred to me that "master" in this context could offend anyone was when GitHub changed the name (and broke my workflow). - My immediate reaction was, "this change is by white people for white people," where "white" means anyone w…
I don't get this "implicit bias" concept. According to media and social media, if I deny that I'm a racist, then I'm just not aware of my implicit bias. Honest question, how is it this different from:
1, If you believe in Jesus, then you can walk on water. If you can't walk on water, then you don't truly believe in Jesus.
2, Chinese saying, "杀人诛心“，meaning that accusing one's motive is worse than killing that person, as the accused couldn't even defend against the accusation. Attacking the Motive is a logical fallacy, no?
3, Back in the 1960s in China, if you were born in a not-so-red family and denied that you were counter revolutionary, then you were just deeply counter revolutionary, and therefore deserved more severe punishment.
Since when people are not judged by their behavior but their thoughts that someone else assert?
Re: GitHub, fuck your name change
#764Using a term other than master is technically annoying as most developers have that memorized and would disrupt their work to a small degree. Nevertheless this is a non-zero cost put on the entire tech community. There isn't much difference between forcing people to not user master branch than let's say not being able to use VSCode, Atom or Sublime, just because the name happens to fit the bill doesn't mean the cost isn't real.
I still believe it makes sense for the tech community to incur this cost. Awareness of these issues is an important part of the solution, no matter how idiotic the change that is making us aware actually is.
There will be people who will use this to their benefit like the example given where Github sells software to ICE and at the same time pretends to care about master branch? Even if a small portion of this change helps with a solution that's a win even if most of it is for publicity stunts or corporate America opportunistically jumping on a social cause bandwagon to sell more products or virtue signal to hire more talent, etc. (I'm looking at you Apple recent diversity/inclusive commercials.)
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#765Did Linus ever explain why he chose master in the first place? Is that a Bitkeeper thing?
Master and branches made no goddamned sense at all. It’s trunk, doofus. Trunk and branches. Like a tree?
Re: GitHub, fuck your name change
#766I want to share my own reactions to the name change since this is a really interesting topic. For context, I'm an African American, so many of my ancestors were slaves. - The first time it occurred to me that "master" in this context could offend anyone was when GitHub changed the name (and broke my workflow). - My immediate reaction was, "this change is by white people for white people," where "white" means anyone w…
As another black SWE, I'll add that I disagree with your perspective. I think the name change does more harm than good because it trivializes the movement. If the goal is to change minds and open hearts then where appropriate, we should endeavor to communicate in ways that will be well received by those who need to hear the message . Stuff like this is just preaching to the choir and alienating the rest, but also not…
Totally agree. Had they made a real change that actually mattered, all this time spent on discussing this rename, could have been put into better use. They created buzz, changed nothing.
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#767Disclaimer: I'm a white engineer who is now a VP. I also have a black daughter. I can't speak for the black experience(s) because I'm not black, but I'm also acutely invested in seeing things get better in terms of race relations and opportunities for all people. A few thoughts: 1. Words matter. They aren't the most important thing per se, but they shouldn't be ignored. Over time, all these little changes do add up.…
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#768I’m a black American and agree with everything that this person in London wrote. It is also a common criticism of the American “left”, and is entirely accurate. For everyone perplexed about black Americans and other people of color walking away from the left, its because you/they don't see us as equals that can be bothered by the exact same things that other Americans can be bothered by: being told what to think, wat…
Perhaps, in the spirit of sharing useful insight within these kinds of discussions, as a black American you could educate me about something? For context, I am neither black nor American, I have little time for woke virtue-signalling and fake outrage, but I do want to be properly respectful of others whose background and sensitivities aren't necessarily like my own. With that in mind, I often find socially acceptable…
NPR looked into this 7 years ago.
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/03/30/295931070...
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#769Sorry I would call this name change nothing but an overreaction
Re: GitHub, fuck your name change
#770I want to share my own reactions to the name change since this is a really interesting topic. For context, I'm an African American, so many of my ancestors were slaves. - The first time it occurred to me that "master" in this context could offend anyone was when GitHub changed the name (and broke my workflow). - My immediate reaction was, "this change is by white people for white people," where "white" means anyone w…
Black SWE here as well, highly disagree with this. If Microsoft/Github wanted to issue "a useful reminder of the implicit bias that contributes to the lack of diversity in tech", they could've founded an non-profit dedicated to training and job placement for BIPOC and underrepresented white women, they could've kept a continuous banner on their site that linked to relevant legislation, initiatives, causes, etc. They…
You seem to be suggesting that this is all Microsoft has done to help underrepresented groups and is their main focus in the push for inclusion, but that isn’t the case: https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2020/06/23/addressing-racia...