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Tusky has been removed from the Play Store

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Re: Tusky has been removed from the Play Store

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How do you discover content on Mastodon? I just intalled Tusky. Didn't have an account and te process of creating one was through some detour and I ended up creating one on qoto.org that I chose randomly. Now I have a feed with pretty random posts and another with even more random posts some in the language I don't know.

How can I find anything worth reading there?

Re: Tusky has been removed from the Play Store

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Most people operate on a caricature version of the paradox, as opposed to Popper's more measured original. Most go with something like "If we tolerate people who aren't 100% our version of kumbaya, we'll end up in tyranny", when Popper's original is restricted to people who have stopped listening, and would make their argument with pistols. Most of the time, the paradox citers are closer to the "not listening" camp t…

If Jan. 6 wasn't proof enough that the "election was stolen" crowd has stopped listening and is willing to make their point with arms, I don't know what would suffice for you.

First, Jan 6 is not relevant to the broader claim, and second is that most of the people on Jan 6th came there to protest, and did not in fact invade the Capitol building. The larpers and other assorted idiots who did pretty surely have lawsuits pending against them for obvious reasons. The vast throng may have been deluded, but did not choose to make their point with arms.

Re: Tusky has been removed from the Play Store

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I get this concern, but the hate speech bit is not BS. People using platforms to plan insurrections or other violence are not gonna be protected, whether by private companies or the government.

You mean like those evil resurrecting revolutionists in myanmar, hongkong and russia?

You’re making my point. The government isn’t going to protect speech more than private companies. Be careful for what you wish for on asking the government to step in.

Re: Tusky has been removed from the Play Store

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Court order. You cant remove app just because you dont like it. App should violate laws to be removed.

I disagree with that. Private companies should be able to remove apps from their store. However, we should make it more possible for alternative stores to be available. Side-loading (including on iPhones) should be a protected ability, not government officials deciding that Apple can’t ban white supremacists from publishing hate speech apps on Apple’s App Store.

>Private companies should be able to remove apps from their store.

Why should they unless the app violates the law?

And please take into consideration the fact that we aren't talking about small / mid size businesses, but giant behemoths and we're trying to apply some rules to the biggest ones.

Re: Tusky has been removed from the Play Store

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f-droid banned Gab. So they cannot be trusted to run an impartial service.

Not tolerating xenophobia, racism and bigots in general is a big point for a lot of people. The paradox of tolerance is something that many people should consider.

> The paradox of tolerance is something that many people should consider.

Or even read, it’s barely longer than a page and yet I see it mischaracterised on these threads repeatedly by people who have clearly not read it.

For those with too short an attention span to even search for the text, let alone read it, and to save them from the mendacious cartoon that purports to boil it down, here’s what it says in two lines:

- speech should beget speech, no matter how disagreeable

- intolerance is defined as those who will not engage in speech and have turned to violence instead

That is not the same as deplatforming “bigots”, or punching Nazis. Quite the opposite.

Edit: typo

Re: Tusky has been removed from the Play Store

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which i would be very happy to have. As long as it is consistently enforced, and clear as law.

Not even our criminal laws are consistently enforced in the US. I have no faith that this would be any different, and think it would just end up as another tool for systemic oppression.

Do you think 4-5 corporations making the decisions behind closed doors will reach a fairer result?

If you categorically don't have faith in the laws and the justice system, you might as well emigrate or start planning a revolution.

Re: Tusky has been removed from the Play Store

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How do you discover content on Mastodon? I just intalled Tusky. Didn't have an account and te process of creating one was through some detour and I ended up creating one on qoto.org that I chose randomly. Now I have a feed with pretty random posts and another with even more random posts some in the language I don't know. How can I find anything worth reading there?

Same experience here. I've really, really wanted to like Mastodon but feel like it's all just random toots. And then if I click the wrong button it is random toots in Mandarin!

Re: Tusky has been removed from the Play Store

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How do you discover content on Mastodon? I just intalled Tusky. Didn't have an account and te process of creating one was through some detour and I ended up creating one on qoto.org that I chose randomly. Now I have a feed with pretty random posts and another with even more random posts some in the language I don't know. How can I find anything worth reading there?

Discovery is definitely the hardest part of the fediverse. Your best bet is to join a server with similar interests and start following people.

Re: Tusky has been removed from the Play Store

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Not tolerating xenophobia, racism and bigots in general is a big point for a lot of people. The paradox of tolerance is something that many people should consider.

One of my favorite zen koans is "Fire-poker Zen": "Hakuin used to tell his pupils about an old woman who had a teashop, praising her understanding of Zen. The pupils refused to believe what he told them and would go to the teashop to find out for themselves. Whenever the woman saw them coming she could tell at once whether they had come for tea or to look into her grasp of Zen. In the former case, she would serve the…

I never understood that koan and I’m not sure I understand it now.
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