This is timely considering I just got hit with a rejection from Apple for my app. It's insane to me that a $1 trillion company is willing to put someone out of business for a measly $300/mo.
No post body was provided.
Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS
231–240 of 280 posts
Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS
#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd like to see them try to enforce that rule with banking apps...
Apple’s in-app purchase/subscription rules only apply to digital goods — not things like banks, Uber, food delivery, etc.
For me, banking is totally digital. I don't buy anything physical from my bank. Just online things.
Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS
#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not true, it depends on what one is used to. My father for example always used Android, now he got an iPhone and he find it more difficult to use, to the point that it asks me even trivial things. It's a myth that iOS is more simple to use than Android, there are things that are more complicated.
Biggest headache that Apple has solved is updates. They are very clear if a phone is still supported or not. The following is a conversation I had with a relative, while trying to troubleshoot their phone. Q: "Why doesn't my Bank App work?" Me: [after many steps]"Because you need to update your OS" Q: "How do I do that?" Me: [many steps later] "Sorry you can't update your OS. You will need a new phone." Q: "But this…
Curious which phone this was because 1 year sounds really short upgrade lifetime.
Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS
#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not true, it depends on what one is used to. My father for example always used Android, now he got an iPhone and he find it more difficult to use, to the point that it asks me even trivial things. It's a myth that iOS is more simple to use than Android, there are things that are more complicated.
> My father for example always used Android. [...] > [H]e got an iPhone and he find it more difficult to use [...] I guess that's precisely because he is used to Android, not because iOS is more difficult.
Oh there are plenty of things that are way more difficult or impossible to do on iphone. An incomplete list:
1. Run a desktop window manager when connected to TV/monitor.
2. Share files using wifi direct or bluetooth.
3. Download torrents.
4. Switch between front and back cameras while recording a video.
5. Play fortnite.
6. Copy files to/from a flash drive.
7. Cast screen to TV.
8. Copy whatsapp chats from older phone.
Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS
#235This is timely considering I just got hit with a rejection from Apple for my app. It's insane to me that a $1 trillion company is willing to put someone out of business for a measly $300/mo.
I’m glad there’s a company that is willing to protect its customers from abusive devs. If there are a few false positives then too bad, nothing is perfect.
More like the company is more of a bully to devs and users than a protector.
Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m glad there’s a company that is willing to protect its customers from abusive devs. If there are a few false positives then too bad, nothing is perfect.
More like the company is more of a bully to devs and users than a protector.
> More like the company is more of a bully to devs and users than a protector.
Sure, that’s exactly the secret to become a big and successful company.
Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS
#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not about grandma. I also don't want to deal with bullshit myself. - In the country I grew up I have to install rootkits in my computer in order to use the bank website. Some of them are borderline impossible to uninstall, and some banks have rootkits that conflicted with the ones of other banks. How do I know if it's not spying on me or not? It's a multi-megabyte kernel extension. I can't even use Linux or a Vi…
On Mac and Windows, I have to think twice about whatever applications I install because, as you said, any application could royally screw with the system. On iOS I can download effectively whatever I like from the App Store without worrying about it screwing up my system. That peace of mind is worth a lot of money, and is why people pay a premium to be in this walled garden. I have no desire for for my iPhone to have…
The problem with the 'don't buy it' argument is that Apple spearheads the 'what can you get away with' movement. Most companies follow Apple and customers bear the brunt. Examples are headphone jack removal, non-removable battery etc.
Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS
#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
They want the experience to be that if you download an app that needs payment to function, it's possible to pay using the same payment flow as everything else. You don't have to hand over your payment information to a third party. Maybe Apple needs to make changes to allow apps that are only a part of a service instead of the main selling point of the service to bypass those rules? Seems like it would be tough to fig…
Crazy how that doesn't apply to Amazon (and Audible) or Netflix /s
Apple made exemption to what they called reader apps. Read but not write, or consume and not create. But you would have thought other Video Streaming Services would be reader Apps. But no, only selected Apps could be classify as reader Apps.
Which is precisely the problem what some people have with the App Store. Actually may be that is not even the case either. There are many accepting the fact there are economy of scale and Amazon, Netflix are big enough to get special treatment. Which is fine. That is until Tim Cook stood up and said everyone gets the same treatment in App Store. Which is a lie.
Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS
#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
Arguing these fine points is a waste of time because I feel like people defending this are missing the complete insanity of this situation. Try a different perspective: Let's say Apple wants to sell their devices at "Billy's Electronics", which is a tiny kiosk at a mall with minimal foot traffic. Billy tells Apple that he'll only sell Apple devices at his kiosk if Apple agrees to give him 30% of all revenues Apple ma…
> 15% is still too much as long as there are no alternatives 1. Most of the apps in the App Store are games. What are the alternative app stores for other handheld gaming systems like the Nintendo Switch and 3DS? 2. I supposed it's a shame that there are no alternatives to iOS/iPhone besides Android which has an 85% market share. 3. https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/10/07/report-steams-30-cut... (updated Jan. 2021.)
>2. I supposed it's a shame that there are no alternatives to iOS/iPhone besides Android which has an 85% market share.
1. Android doesn't have 85% market share, whether that is inclusive of Google Android or Android without Google.
2. Android doesn't have 85% market share, whether that is in US or Worldwide.
3. Today, the iPhone has 66% market share in the United States, 75% of U.S. App Store revenues, and over 80% of time spent on the mobile internet. And increasing.
4. Apple could have a seperate Game Store and locked in at 30%. I would have been completely fine. I may not like it, but there isn't much to debate.
5. When the whole economy are moving to Online and Digital, while Apple having the dictating power and a near monopoly of 30% cut on Digital Goods. We have a problem. Especially doing so without alternative payment system allowed. I cant have a separate signup link, nor can I advertise it with link to Web.
Re: Librem Tunnel Is Leaving iOS
#240I have been a vocal supporter of Librem, and Pine64 because I see the adoption of free devices running free software as a necessary solution and the way to ultimately change the dynamics in the industry. They are literally doing the thing I think is the solution. On the other hand, I oppose the generic bashing of Apple and Epic’s antitrust campaign, because these have nothing to do with creating an alternative. Indee…
A VPN is no use unless both ends of the system are using it. Should Apache block Safari from accessing websites hosted there? That doesn't seem like a good way to promote open-source.