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Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 6:06 AM UTC

yew wrote: post #48

harry8 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are literal nazis who use the internet. And yet you still want to be able to log on. That is interesting. But a lot less interesting than you seem to think. I'm sure even you agree with me about something and that fact alone is unlikely to change my mind about whatever-it-is either. And I'm sure literal nazis agree with you about something and probably more than one thing. I counsel you not to care, while notin…

I'm not the one arguing they should be able to stay on. (Or you, for that matter.) I counsel you throw your "principles" in the bin where they belong. Maybe find some new, less toxic, more sound principles. Or just become a Republican. Why should I care?

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Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by anigbrowl » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 6:09 AM UTC

harry8 wrote: post #56

yew wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not the one arguing they should be able to stay on. (Or you, for that matter.) I counsel you throw your "principles" in the bin where they belong. Maybe find some new, less toxic, more sound principles. Or just become a Republican. Why should I care?

I don't know if you are deliberately missing the point in a calculated troll and I'm being an idiot feeding it, but in case you're actually genuine try this one on. It's good to think about. Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church, yeah them, successfully ran civil liberties cases against Jim Crow and also effectively fought racially segregated schools in court. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps Do you sti…

But if you stick with your principle of making sure you're not on the same side as horrible human beings you've got to abandon supporting the struggle for racial equality.

A strange argument. You could just call out extremely bigoted people, who sometimes sneak into well-intentioned projects in order to get moral cover. where is it written that you have to cede ground to the bigoted person? You allude to this in your final paragraph but frankly, that seems like handwaving rather than really engaging with the issue.

Combating the existence of the horrific is always used to take rights away and leads to something far worse.

Extremely questionable. It seems to me that this justification is often raised in lieu of engaging with a deeply unpleasant subject.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by cheese_van » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 6:12 AM UTC

NullPrefix wrote: post #5

LinuxBender wrote: post #2

Having never owned a smart phone I am curious if you need an app for this, or could you simply have an old school forum and people visit it on their phones browser? Is that even feasible? Too much friction?

>Having never owned a smart phone I am curious if you need an app for this Yes. No smartphone will make people think you're a creep. /somewhat s

I did elicit laughter from very young people who saw me single-finger punching into a flip-top. I do recall when "portable" phones were carried in a suitcase. I'm not sure what order of magnitude change we have now with our phones, but certainly more than 10x. And since I also recall, with distaste, updating some dumb Banyan Vines email map on a daily basis, Gmail seems to me rather brilliantly > 10x.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by gfxgirl » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 6:23 AM UTC

villgax wrote: post #49

How much to bet if this was manually done by a conservative reviewer?

Honestly, if we could get a group of people, 4chan?, to try to complain about apps and get lots of them banned maybe there'd be more legal pressure to stop Google and Apple being the arbiters of what's allowed on your phone.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by fareesh » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 6:23 AM UTC

The "private company can do whatever it wants" crowd will not show up for this one because it doesn't suit their politics

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by echelon » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 6:33 AM UTC

fareesh wrote: post #65

The "private company can do whatever it wants" crowd will not show up for this one because it doesn't suit their politics

This is why politics and policy shouldn't mix.

Platforms can't deny service. Freedom depends on individual choice.

The ACLU defended Parler. Most of the Capitol Hill planning happened on Facebook, anyway.

I'm a Democrat and voted for Biden/Ossoff/Warnock, but we can't censor Republican and conservative websites. That's letting power get to our heads, and baking in this sort of status quo will bite us down the road when other entities want to censor us.

Speak ill of foreign governments? I could see a world where that's prohibited. Let's not let it happen.

Freedom of speech, freedom to run your software on your own device, and rules for the platforms that enhance both of these liberties.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by nobodyknowsyoda » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 6:35 AM UTC

fareesh wrote: post #65

The "private company can do whatever it wants" crowd will not show up for this one because it doesn't suit their politics

> The "private company can do whatever it wants" crowd will not show up for this one because it doesn't suit their politics

The wedding cake crowd or the violent threats one?

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by Griffinsauce » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 6:35 AM UTC

fareesh wrote: post #65

The "private company can do whatever it wants" crowd will not show up for this one because it doesn't suit their politics

Hi, they are well within their rights (as usual) but we can still say it's bs and makes no sense.

The difference with the things you're likely defending is that this app does no harm and is only being blocked for puritanical reasons. Ethically they are similar but not the same.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by echelon » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 6:38 AM UTC

Griffinsauce wrote: post #68

fareesh wrote: post #65

The "private company can do whatever it wants" crowd will not show up for this one because it doesn't suit their politics

Hi, they are well within their rights (as usual) but we can still say it's bs and makes no sense. The difference with the things you're likely defending is that this app does no harm and is only being blocked for puritanical reasons. Ethically they are similar but not the same.

> they are well within their rights (as usual)

Then maybe it's time to make laws that prohibit Google and Apple from wielding this power.

We're letting the majority of customers that are okay with these decisions punish the minority.

Platforms already wield undue economic power and impose stresses on small players that the utopia of pre-smartphone web didn't have. Dealing with these fat clowns is a joke. Natural technology by itself imposes no such limits. They've enshrined themselves in market position and laws, and they're printing monkey without adding benefit or developing the features app developers are driving.

It's time Apple and Google stopped being marketplaces.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Post by caslon » Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 6:39 AM UTC

fareesh wrote: post #65

The "private company can do whatever it wants" crowd will not show up for this one because it doesn't suit their politics

I've said it before, and I'll say it now: private companies can ban what they want! It's good for corporations to have ethics, even if I don't agree with said ethics, whether it's banning Gab or this.

It's their constitutional right, and it's a responsibility that comes with having the power they do.