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Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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Just a quick search in Google Play Store shows several apps that are similarly named including "Threesome Dating App for Couples & Swingers: 3rder". While I don't agree that they should be policing this content at all I think the inconsistency at which they do it is even worse. They won't hesitate to remove an app or your entire account and once they do it's impossible to talk to anyone. Meanwhile other similar apps…

Monopoly power right there (yes I'm assuming someone I don't know on the internet is speaking the truth - the assumption may be wrong). What percentage of the mobile phone market is now closed to you?

If you've got the supporting docs to that story it's a good one for any journalist who has an interest in silicon valley market power. Silicon valley monopoly power into a search engine will link up a bunch of newspaper stories about it. Start with the author of the one you think is the best and send them the docs and it may well be there as supporting evidence the next time they write about the abuse of monopolistic power. In general it's a bad idea to "trust" journalists so exercise usual amounts of caution.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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I sometimes ponder... they won't allow my sex chat app in the store - yet I find many apps are rated mature over 17 or something.. and a few of the top 20 search results for 'sex chat' I believe have an app in the store..

then you see this poly site kicked..

and I wonder if tinder and grindr are handing over a large enough chunk of change where the sex rules do not apply.

I mean a sex chat app is mostly about chatting when little chance of a real world meet up. However tinder and grinder are basically 'let's have real world sex tonight' apps right?

Someone from big G please tell me how to get an app in the store where people can talk about sex. Need a funny name? Need to be able to hand over a ton of money and location data?

I sometimes jest that it's a kind of conspiracy. Especially if being in the store is a ranking signal for any search results.

Of course I don't know, I just ponder these things. I've made a few bookmarks and screenshots with some research a while back, but no time to share today.

Tried to see if it's back in - but from their site that is linked from vice, the link to the play store shows:

The site at https://twitter.com/hashtagopen/status/1369022572671733769?s... has experienced a network protocol violation that cannot be repaired.

Is twitter going further down the block / ban route now?

I also ponder if twitter really does ban everyone that has ever talked about violence how many others will be booted in the weeks ahead. Then where will people go to vote up their favorite songs.

Just some occasional pondering.

edited to add some ' ' - and fix a mispelled word.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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The polyamory "community" is generally a hotbed of misogyny and transphobia. Of course it's perfectly possible that this particular app has nothing to do with that. But always do your own research before you choose to amplify a message - you never know who else might be working alongside you.

See now here's the thing. I don't care who is "along side". No really. I don't. It's not that interesting. There will always be a total bastard who agrees with you. So what?

I don't like prejudice. I don't like hatred of people and all the names it goes by but this makes zero difference to me.

I recommend acting on principle and then not caring at all about who agrees. I really admire and respect the mostly Jewish ACLU lawyers who defended American Nazis' rights. Actual swastika wearing Nazis! Defended by Jewish lawyers. Because Nazis rights are your rights and my rights. I know nowadays the catch cry would most likely be "You're literally sticking up for nazis!" No. No! They stuck up for /your/ rights to criticize nazis and march about it.

A bunch of Jewish lawyers with close family ties to the holocaust trauma in a very personal way /still/ did that on principle. I find it inspiring courage and unwavering commitment to doing the right thing. That kind of heroism is worth considering every now and then. And for the record, no, I do not like nazis at all, in any way, either.

Various other hideous groups take the place of the Nazis at times. Westboro Baptist Church, "terrorists", drug-pushers, serial-killers etc etc. You should still have your principles and see their rights as yours when your rights are weakened because "they" are completely unlovable.

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No we have not. And we don't want to, so please stop this. You are free to call it anything you want, but don't tell us how to call it.

What do you have to lose by switching to a term that is more descriptive and less likely to be offensive to someone? "We've called it that for a long time" isn't really an argument to keep doing it. For non-native speakers, they have to be familiar with the idiom or it is a meaningless statement, and whether or not the original intent was for it to be related at all to skin color, it can feed in to people's unconscio…

I have nothing to lose other than the fact that I am allowing my language to be policed by individuals who are arbitrarily pattern matching words so that they can pat themselves on the back for being "good".

The unconscious bias you speak of does not exist I believe. I think that the "everything is political" rhetoric has simply amplified the inane pattern matching of individuals who are obsessed with pushing this agenda. They think they see patterns that don't exist and try to justify their intent with vague arguments about unconscious bias.

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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I sometimes ponder... they won't allow my sex chat app in the store - yet I find many apps are rated mature over 17 or something.. and a few of the top 20 search results for 'sex chat' I believe have an app in the store.. then you see this poly site kicked.. and I wonder if tinder and grindr are handing over a large enough chunk of change where the sex rules do not apply. I mean a sex chat app is mostly about chattin…

As someone who has used tinder in the past, no it’s not exactly what you describe it as. Sure, you might be able to find immediate sex if you are lucky and attractive, but it’s not so easy. Grindr, from what I’ve heard from my gay friends who use it, is a lot more casual.

Most profiles I came across on tinder specifically mentioned that they were not on it for a short term thing.

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post #39

The polyamory "community" is generally a hotbed of misogyny and transphobia. Of course it's perfectly possible that this particular app has nothing to do with that. But always do your own research before you choose to amplify a message - you never know who else might be working alongside you.

See now here's the thing. I don't care who is "along side". No really. I don't. It's not that interesting. There will always be a total bastard who agrees with you. So what? I don't like prejudice. I don't like hatred of people and all the names it goes by but this makes zero difference to me. I recommend acting on principle and then not caring at all about who agrees. I really admire and respect the mostly Jewish AC…

The ACLU learned a thing or two from Charlottesville, even if you didn't. I doubt they'd make the mistake of putting "principles" before human lives today.

But thank you for being so eager to say that you "don't care who" when "who" are literal Nazis. That is very interesting.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

See now here's the thing. I don't care who is "along side". No really. I don't. It's not that interesting. There will always be a total bastard who agrees with you. So what? I don't like prejudice. I don't like hatred of people and all the names it goes by but this makes zero difference to me. I recommend acting on principle and then not caring at all about who agrees. I really admire and respect the mostly Jewish AC…

The ACLU learned a thing or two from Charlottesville, even if you didn't. I doubt they'd make the mistake of putting "principles" before human lives today. But thank you for being so eager to say that you "don't care who" when "who" are literal Nazis. That is very interesting.

There are literal nazis who use the internet. And yet you still want to be able to log on. That is interesting. But a lot less interesting than you seem to think.

I'm sure even you agree with me about something and that fact alone is unlikely to change my mind about whatever-it-is either. And I'm sure literal nazis agree with you about something and probably more than one thing. I counsel you not to care, while noting that doesn't make nazis any better as human beings.

See how it works? Principles. They're just great! Sugar free, non-fattening goodness. Try some today!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ACLU learned a thing or two from Charlottesville, even if you didn't. I doubt they'd make the mistake of putting "principles" before human lives today. But thank you for being so eager to say that you "don't care who" when "who" are literal Nazis. That is very interesting.

There are literal nazis who use the internet. And yet you still want to be able to log on. That is interesting. But a lot less interesting than you seem to think. I'm sure even you agree with me about something and that fact alone is unlikely to change my mind about whatever-it-is either. And I'm sure literal nazis agree with you about something and probably more than one thing. I counsel you not to care, while notin…

I'm not the one arguing they should be able to stay on. (Or you, for that matter.)

I counsel you throw your "principles" in the bin where they belong. Maybe find some new, less toxic, more sound principles.

Or just become a Republican. Why should I care?

Re: Google Play store bans polyamory dating app

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I sometimes ponder... they won't allow my sex chat app in the store - yet I find many apps are rated mature over 17 or something.. and a few of the top 20 search results for 'sex chat' I believe have an app in the store.. then you see this poly site kicked.. and I wonder if tinder and grindr are handing over a large enough chunk of change where the sex rules do not apply. I mean a sex chat app is mostly about chattin…

As someone who has used tinder in the past, no it’s not exactly what you describe it as. Sure, you might be able to find immediate sex if you are lucky and attractive, but it’s not so easy. Grindr, from what I’ve heard from my gay friends who use it, is a lot more casual. Most profiles I came across on tinder specifically mentioned that they were not on it for a short term thing.

Thanks for the viewpoint on this.

My understanding of the app comes from several guy friends and many girl-friends that seem to use the app for finding sex tonight.

Also running around as a part time lyft driver for a year or more, in a city that has rampant tourism, I have been quite amazed at how many people were meeting up with or leaving hotels/airbnbs with stories of just got in town and got on tinder and ... with some person from some other random state with same kind of story.

Even though we are bachelorette capital (unofficial) of the country, I have yet to hear about an upcoming wedding that started with a meetup via tinder.

I understand I am a small data point in millions, so this proves nothing - but my limited understanding.

Maybe my add in point would be that it very much depends on where you are as to the expectations of said app usage. And now that I think about this along with your statement and some of the other dating info I have learned from reading HN over the years.. perhaps time of day and location are very important factors.

Certainly tinder usage in a town of 500 is different that the options in a city 3 million. I am now considering that tinder usage at 1am leads to a different type of meetup than say the desires of someone getting on there at 6pm as well.

I'd love to see some stats from them like okcupid use to share.

What ever the percentage, I think we can assume that most people who meet up via tinder probably have sex before wasting too much - as say compared to a dating app like Devout-Christian-Family-Singles or such..

It's been a fairly shared knowledge I think in these parts anyhow, that if you want a relationship go for something like match dot com.. if you are in anything alternative dating wise okcupid, willing accept a percentage of dates will be with seriously crazy people; plentyoffish, really want to meet up tonight and see what happens, Tinder / grindr..

So I think my questioning of these policies is still fair, we don't have a list of explicit lines that google gives app/site makers. We know these things are being used for 'immoral' things - fornication, frequently, likely by the millions.. and it would be easy for google and match group to know when they are illegal as well (adultery) - so it's not a legal or moral thing they are drawing lines with.

It's got to be the money (?) or a small group of googlers that are choosing to be a level or prude in some places and level of give the finger to the church and the gov in others or something.

I remember some years ago when cell phone companies had actual lines drawn on a woman's butt showing how small a bikini could be for premium sms messages - when a tiny bikini was too small or not to not violate - at least those lines were drawn and shared with other for a level playing field.

These days it feels like the big money incumbents have little to fear from google and it's easy for smaller niche apps / groups of people to be shunned and told to open a browser instead.

Which is fine, just some things I think about once in a while.

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