Yeah, I was actually thinking of buying a corvette or other sports car. Because I figure it will be a collectible and worth more money than I pay for it down the line. As they stop making gas cars.
How will you refuel it once there is no gas station network anymore? (Assuming electric Utopia is going to come).
Audi abandons combustion engine development
41–50 of 101 posts
Re: Audi abandons combustion engine development
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
You making a lot of assumptions that arent born out by current experience. Its not uncommon for 100 year old cars to be registered and driven on public roads today. I personally have registered “daily drivers” from the 1970s and 80s. I actually rebuilt my 1972 motorcycle using factory parts from the dealership. As cars get rare they tend to increase in value, which also increases the return on effort/money put in to…
and when 90+ precent of the cars on the road are EV - where are you going to get gasoline? or think how much an oil change will cost when motor oil becomes a specialty item > You making a lot of assumptions that arent born out by current experience current experience assume easy access to gasoline and motor oil that has been true for 100 years - that will pass in time
I suspect once we reach a certain thresholds it will create other push factors toward EV's and accelerate their adoption.
Re: Audi abandons combustion engine development
#43Yeah, I was actually thinking of buying a corvette or other sports car. Because I figure it will be a collectible and worth more money than I pay for it down the line. As they stop making gas cars.
How will you refuel it once there is no gas station network anymore? (Assuming electric Utopia is going to come).
Re: Audi abandons combustion engine development
#44ICE’s have over a century of development behind them now. I’m not going to miss them, but I wonder if there’s a way to ‘archive’ this kind of specialist mechanical engineering knowledge. It may come in handy one day. It’s depressing to read about engineers having to go to the Smithsonian to study the lunar lander to relearn some of the innovations and improvisations made at the time.
Don’t even have to go back that far. US govt is calling for contractors to reverse engineer b2 bombers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26333649
If you want to run a current F1 car in 40 years time then you will need to RE it however because the Powertrain is complicated and totally custom
Re: Audi abandons combustion engine development
#45Re: Audi abandons combustion engine development
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
and when 90+ precent of the cars on the road are EV - where are you going to get gasoline? or think how much an oil change will cost when motor oil becomes a specialty item > You making a lot of assumptions that arent born out by current experience current experience assume easy access to gasoline and motor oil that has been true for 100 years - that will pass in time
I've been wondering if the cutoff is actually much earlier. Say 50% of cars on the road are EV, how many gas stations can continue to run profitably with 50% less customers? Even getting and refining the gas requires massive global supply chains to transport and refine, what happens when there's a 50% drop in customers? Do they lose their efficiencies of scale? Do prices rise substantially as this happens? I suspect…
I expect we will hit a wall that will inhibit adoption.
Re: Audi abandons combustion engine development
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems inevitable that much of the practical knowledge is lost. Look at how few old sailing ships survive, despite that being the most advanced transportation technology for centuries. The schematics of the engines will survive, but future generations who study them will struggle to understand the design choices that went into them. I’m happy that might change in the world of software, since so much collaboration i…
> The schematics of the engines will survive, but future generations who study them will struggle to understand the design choices that went into them. > I’m happy that might change in the world of software, since so much collaboration is done online, and future historians will have troves of JIRA tickets to dig through. I doubt it. In my experience, JIRA tickets don't capture much information like that. Also, my emp…
Think of all the papers this will produce for future historians!
Re: Audi abandons combustion engine development
#48Audi is just one of the brands of Volkswagen group. I wonder if Audi will just get support from other groups.
Don't know if it's true or not, but saw a comment elsewhere that said Audi mostly uses engines designed by other VW groups. On the other hand VW is showing a heavy commitment to electric vehicle production.
Re: Audi abandons combustion engine development
#49Audi is just one of the brands of Volkswagen group. I wonder if Audi will just get support from other groups.
Don't know if it's true or not, but saw a comment elsewhere that said Audi mostly uses engines designed by other VW groups. On the other hand VW is showing a heavy commitment to electric vehicle production.
Re: Audi abandons combustion engine development
#50If the Euro 7 standard has little benefit for the environment, it should be stricter, because the cities are full of toxic gases.