I discovered awhile ago that so-called "junk bonds" are in fact very rewarding investments that are actually only risky by comparison to other bonds, and not by comparison to other popular asset classes like stocks. Been making $120/year off an $800 bond I bought that has grown in value to $950. Win!
Why in the world would you own bonds?
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Re: Why in the world would you own bonds?
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t know a whole lot about professional investing, but if watching The Big Short has taught me anything it’s that the pros will say one thing publicly but do the opposite in private until it’s to their advantage to do a 180 and make their private stance actually public. Recently this was Jamie Dimon lambasting Bitcoin all the while a cryptocurrency trading desk was being set up at Chase. The following exchange fr…
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Re: Why in the world would you own bonds?
#93One thing I've learned about professional investors is that no matter what, at the end of the day they're talking their book. So whether you buy these arguments or not, Ray Dalio is simply promoting a position that Bridgewater no doubt has taken. So when he says: "I believe a well-diversified portfolio of non-debt and non-dollar assets along with a short cash position is preferable to a traditional stock/bond mix tha…
I don’t know a whole lot about professional investing, but if watching The Big Short has taught me anything it’s that the pros will say one thing publicly but do the opposite in private until it’s to their advantage to do a 180 and make their private stance actually public. Recently this was Jamie Dimon lambasting Bitcoin all the while a cryptocurrency trading desk was being set up at Chase. The following exchange fr…
But Jamie Dimon also has a reputation of not being the smartest bulb in the block, and also being overly cautious so....
I think the GP statement is more correct though. A lot of fund managers love to gloat about their positions rather than talk the inverse.
Re: Why in the world would you own bonds?
#94The conclusion kind of scares me, especially coming from Dalio. > so they could very well impose prohibitions against capital movements to other assets (e.g., gold, Bitcoin, etc.) and other locations. These tax changes could be more shocking than expected. Who truly believes this is a likely scenario? A number of folks I know are already considering fleeing the US but if this was to pass, that number would skyrocket…
Re: Why in the world would you own bonds?
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Basically what Taleb describes as Skin in the Game: >"Don’t Tell Me What You Think, Tell Me What You Have In Your Portfolio"
Only if it going to actually hurt to lose it... when did these guys every really get hurt... they hedge their bets exactly so they never put themselves in a position to literally loose their house(s).
Re: Why in the world would you own bonds?
#96Certainly those at the Fed and the Treasury speak confidently that the debt is manageable and inflation is easily cooled, but I imagine they have to project confidence.
Re: Why in the world would you own bonds?
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is perhaps only relevant if you plan on selling them. I have no such plans. For me they are an ever accruing "money hose" I can turn off or on as needed...
Haven’t munis had negative real (ie after inflation) returns for a while now?
Re: Why in the world would you own bonds?
#98The conclusion kind of scares me, especially coming from Dalio. > so they could very well impose prohibitions against capital movements to other assets (e.g., gold, Bitcoin, etc.) and other locations. These tax changes could be more shocking than expected. Who truly believes this is a likely scenario? A number of folks I know are already considering fleeing the US but if this was to pass, that number would skyrocket…
Re: Why in the world would you own bonds?
#99One thing I've learned about professional investors is that no matter what, at the end of the day they're talking their book. So whether you buy these arguments or not, Ray Dalio is simply promoting a position that Bridgewater no doubt has taken. So when he says: "I believe a well-diversified portfolio of non-debt and non-dollar assets along with a short cash position is preferable to a traditional stock/bond mix tha…
> One thing I've learned about professional investors is that no matter what, at the end of the day they're talking their book. That doesn't make them wrong. It's basically just a tautology. If you believe X is a great investment, and you aren't investing in it , that would be a far stranger situation.
Far stranger schemes exist, the most recently to hit popular culture is gamma squeeze. Just because a scheme is strange has little bearing on whether or not it'll end up working out with them having your money.
At the end of the day, the point is they're trying to sell their book, which is not the same as trying to sell investment X (although they may be very closely related).
Re: Why in the world would you own bonds?
#100One thing I've learned about professional investors is that no matter what, at the end of the day they're talking their book. So whether you buy these arguments or not, Ray Dalio is simply promoting a position that Bridgewater no doubt has taken. So when he says: "I believe a well-diversified portfolio of non-debt and non-dollar assets along with a short cash position is preferable to a traditional stock/bond mix tha…
I don’t know a whole lot about professional investing, but if watching The Big Short has taught me anything it’s that the pros will say one thing publicly but do the opposite in private until it’s to their advantage to do a 180 and make their private stance actually public. Recently this was Jamie Dimon lambasting Bitcoin all the while a cryptocurrency trading desk was being set up at Chase. The following exchange fr…
If they always act as predictably as stated, there's too obvious of an arbitrage opportunity.