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Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by withinboredom »

LegitShady wrote: post #190
dgellow wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a small anecdote: I created a company account, then set the birthday to ~1 year ago, when the company was registered. Everything was fine for 5 minutes, then my account has been blocked with a notification telling me that I need to be at least 13 years old to use Twitter. I can still login but cannot access the settings to change the birthday (or just remove it) as a screen “fix your age or prove your identity”…

I created a regular account. I followed a handful of people. Not long after (same day I think) it said they thought I was a bot and could I scan my ID and email it to them to verify I was a human. I couldn't even log into the account to delete it without providing them a photo of my ID, so I said fuck that and never thought about it ever again.

The funny part is, your account was probably recorded as a "bot" account in that team's success metrics.

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Post by onion2k »

cbozeman wrote: post #165
ve55 wrote: post #55

In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

There is no way to moderate the entire world. The sooner everyone alive accepts this, the better off we will be. The values of a Black lesbian female software developer who grew up in San Francisco and went to Stanford will never be compatible with the values of a Hispanic straight male Marine officer who grew up in San Antonio and went to Texas Christian University and has been deployed to 17 different countries. Ho…

However, they can and do exist on the same platforms. They can exist because both of them are going to HAVE to learn how to engage with one another, even though their existences are completely incompatible and utterly different.

How are those two people's lives on social media incompatible? There's a million things they could have in common - a love of tacos, a band to talk about, a shared joke about a dumb celebrity, etc etc.99.9999% of the time different people can and do coexist in the same spaces.

The idea that two wildly different people with different points of view can't even exist in the same social network is nonsense. The only time incompatible points of view are a problem is when one or other person decides to try to invalidate the existence of the other. That's what moderation is there to stop. If people are just tweeting about their life there's nothing to moderate.

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Post by edoceo »

andybak wrote: post #205
umeshunni wrote: post #185

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It's only repressive government moderation when someone else does it. When it happens in the US, it's "policing hate speech".

That's a fair argument but only if you embrace the logical conclusion of the stance you are taking. If you are arguing for unbridled free speech then fair enough (Personally I wouldn't but we can have that conversaion). If however you have your own feelings about sane limits on free speech - then you can't take this position without someone else using your argument against you. It's fine to make these kind of grand s…

I think the parent might have been sarcastic. Hard to tell in text only. I read the last line as "pOlIcInG hAtE sPeEch" with USA being the butt of the joke.

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Post by pixl97 »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #210
cbozeman wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no way to moderate the entire world. The sooner everyone alive accepts this, the better off we will be. The values of a Black lesbian female software developer who grew up in San Francisco and went to Stanford will never be compatible with the values of a Hispanic straight male Marine officer who grew up in San Antonio and went to Texas Christian University and has been deployed to 17 different countries. Ho…

I am not sure I understand your claim... there are many global-scale companies that do moderate their entire site... Google, Reddit, Amazon. Are you trying to make a more specific claim than your post lets on? Maybe that it’s impossible to moderate without making some concession you don’t prefer? Or it’s impossible to moderate away certain kinds of things?

And said companies are quite often on HN for screwing up said moderation.

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Post by obscoth »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #210
cbozeman wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no way to moderate the entire world. The sooner everyone alive accepts this, the better off we will be. The values of a Black lesbian female software developer who grew up in San Francisco and went to Stanford will never be compatible with the values of a Hispanic straight male Marine officer who grew up in San Antonio and went to Texas Christian University and has been deployed to 17 different countries. Ho…

I am not sure I understand your claim... there are many global-scale companies that do moderate their entire site... Google, Reddit, Amazon. Are you trying to make a more specific claim than your post lets on? Maybe that it’s impossible to moderate without making some concession you don’t prefer? Or it’s impossible to moderate away certain kinds of things?

They aren’t actually making a claim. It’s an emotional appeal to “free speech” absolutism, whatever that means.

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

fakename11 wrote: post #209
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #195

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No, it's not enough. Twitter constantly showes me nudes that are liked by some people I follow. I hate this feature. They should be an option to limit your feed only to the people you follow, but it is unlikely we'll see it because it contradicts the platform aim to increase engagement, by hook or by crook.

Follow better people? (Or at least don't follow their "personal" accounts)

The people are ok. It just happened that within russian opposition female members have a weird tradition to do #nudesthursday

I am generally interested in what they write but on Thursdays they post nudes and like nudes of other females I don't follow, and Twitter shows me a lot of their likes. It annoys me to no end.

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Post by lupire »

andybak wrote: post #199
Camillo wrote: post #161

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> Why not have user curated and shareable blocklists? Because often the goal is to control what _others_ can see.

Whilst what you say isn't bereft of truth, your phrasing conjours up a shadowy cabal - which in turn makes me wonder if you're deep down one of several potential conspiracy rabbit holes yourself. If you don't want to give this impression you would benefit from modifying your tone.

It was a simple statement of undisputed fact proclaimed by Twitter management and their peers.

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Post by dkarras »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #195
WillPostForFood wrote: post #146

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Why isn’t it sufficient to not follow Alex Jones? I’ve never seen a tweet by him. Twitter is one of the least pushy platforms in algorithmically pushing content. Just follow people you want to see content from, and unfollow if they tweet things you don’t want to see.

No, it's not enough. Twitter constantly showes me nudes that are liked by some people I follow. I hate this feature. They should be an option to limit your feed only to the people you follow, but it is unlikely we'll see it because it contradicts the platform aim to increase engagement, by hook or by crook.

I think that feature exists unless I am imagining things? There should be a ... button on the top of the tweet and there should be something like "Not interested in this tweet" there. When you click it, I think it says "show fewer tweets by X" and there should also be an option to see fewer of the likes / retweets from a person.

But in reality, in twitter, like is a soft form of retweeting and users know it. So if someone you follow uses the "like / favorite" feature it also kind of means they want people to see it. For bookmarks, there is a different bookmark functionality. On twitter, like is a low weighted retweet that does not show up in the user's profile directly.

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Post by lupire »

CydeWeys wrote: post #111
h2odragon wrote: post #62

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Killfiles worked for usenet

They really didn't. And they certainly don't work now; just look at how completely overrun with spam Usenet is these days.

That's because all the humans moved to modern tools, but spam scales very easily.
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