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Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by oe »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #146
GhostVII wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not have user curated and shareable blocklists? So if I never want to see anything from Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos and the like, I just subscribe to a blocklist that eliminates far right commentators. You could even create networks of trusted users where anyone they block, is blocked for everyone in the network. Or have shareable rulesets, like "block anyone who uses this word", or "block anyone who follows…

Why isn’t it sufficient to not follow Alex Jones? I’ve never seen a tweet by him. Twitter is one of the least pushy platforms in algorithmically pushing content. Just follow people you want to see content from, and unfollow if they tweet things you don’t want to see.

Do you use the official Twitter clients? Because they seem to push different, “popular” content pretty hard. Many people joked that ‘Super follow’ should have been replaced by ‘Super block’

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Post by sterlind »

cbozeman wrote: post #169
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The old internet with webforums for particular topics, where the moderators knew the posters, was a better model.

It really was, but we've largely abandoned that model. The new model is going to require understanding that there are people who are totally opposed to almost everything you hold dear... and finding a way to interact with them.

Discord (and Reddit, mostly) moderation still works in the old ways. Whenever there's something like a server or channel or subreddit moderation can be delegated, at least somewhat. Maybe vast unstructured oceans like Twitter aren't the way forward?

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by BaseS4 »

cbozeman wrote: post #165
ve55 wrote: post #55

In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

There is no way to moderate the entire world. The sooner everyone alive accepts this, the better off we will be. The values of a Black lesbian female software developer who grew up in San Francisco and went to Stanford will never be compatible with the values of a Hispanic straight male Marine officer who grew up in San Antonio and went to Texas Christian University and has been deployed to 17 different countries. Ho…

The banning has to continue because if we stop now, we'd have to admit the bans we did between 2016 and 2020 were equally ridiculous and arbitrary.

No, we must ramp up the bans so that we never acknowledge past mistakes. This is the way.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by LegitShady »

trhway wrote: post #120
inglor_cz wrote: post #90

Cancel Culture 2.0: entire cities purged ;)

May be the Sodom and Gomorrah were just a similar automated system error, and the story that we know is just a spin by the heaven's PR department in the aftermath of the mistake. Also jives nicely with another topic - automated drones - at the top of HN today. Giving that Twitter with all its money has probably an AI among the best and still makes such a gaping errors...

>May be the Sodom and Gomorrah were just a similar automated system error,

They were clearly related to the salt mine meme

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #146
GhostVII wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not have user curated and shareable blocklists? So if I never want to see anything from Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos and the like, I just subscribe to a blocklist that eliminates far right commentators. You could even create networks of trusted users where anyone they block, is blocked for everyone in the network. Or have shareable rulesets, like "block anyone who uses this word", or "block anyone who follows…

Why isn’t it sufficient to not follow Alex Jones? I’ve never seen a tweet by him. Twitter is one of the least pushy platforms in algorithmically pushing content. Just follow people you want to see content from, and unfollow if they tweet things you don’t want to see.

No, it's not enough. Twitter constantly showes me nudes that are liked by some people I follow. I hate this feature.

They should be an option to limit your feed only to the people you follow, but it is unlikely we'll see it because it contradicts the platform aim to increase engagement, by hook or by crook.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by rodgerd »

GhostVII wrote: post #121
ve55 wrote: post #55

In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

Why not have user curated and shareable blocklists? So if I never want to see anything from Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos and the like, I just subscribe to a blocklist that eliminates far right commentators. You could even create networks of trusted users where anyone they block, is blocked for everyone in the network. Or have shareable rulesets, like "block anyone who uses this word", or "block anyone who follows…

You could probably get some value from https://secateur.app/ but there are also various blocktogether the groups.

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Post by paulpauper »

Twitter ha a bunch of stupid, arbitrary rules. If you make a tweet comment that violates twitter's rules and are forced to verify your phone, all future tweets will be demoted to the bottom of comments where few people will see them. This is permanent and no way to ever fix it.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by oe »

PastaMonster wrote: post #176
MattGaiser wrote: post #75

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You get it back in 12 hours, so it is not a big deal.

If you break the twitters infinitely vague rules 5 times your account will get banned permanently. So it is a big deal. Anyone interested in testing the 5 times limit by using the Memphis?

Exactly this. I’m also afraid that it sets a flag somewhere that “this person has been banned at some point” which will affect something down the line.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Post by andybak »

Camillo wrote: post #161
GhostVII wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not have user curated and shareable blocklists? So if I never want to see anything from Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos and the like, I just subscribe to a blocklist that eliminates far right commentators. You could even create networks of trusted users where anyone they block, is blocked for everyone in the network. Or have shareable rulesets, like "block anyone who uses this word", or "block anyone who follows…

> Why not have user curated and shareable blocklists? Because often the goal is to control what _others_ can see.

Whilst what you say isn't bereft of truth, your phrasing conjours up a shadowy cabal - which in turn makes me wonder if you're deep down one of several potential conspiracy rabbit holes yourself.

If you don't want to give this impression you would benefit from modifying your tone.

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