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Re: Gitlab default branch name changes to main

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Post by diomedes »

somedude895 wrote: post #168
macspoofing wrote: post #158

Yeah, I get it. It is a necessary change just so you take this of the table and not deal with the sporadic complaints that would come. Keeping the 'master' or 'master-slave' (in context of HA) terms just isn't worth potentially offending someone, or losing a sale, or getting bad press. We changed our verbage a couple years in our product as well just for that reason (Master-Slave to Primary-Secondary). The previous c…

> I wish we, the global community, didn't all have to pay for America's internal cultural hangups. Can't wait for Disney to remove any references to the "Dark Side" in Star Wars, Harry Potter to rename the "Dark Arts" into the "Bad Arts" and Lord of the Rings' "Black Riders" to become the "Evil Horsemen." Nobody ever used to connect the term "blacklist" to race. But common sense doesn't seem to play a role anymore.

> But common sense doesn't seem to play a role anymore.

If it were just a common sense problem the damage could be reverted in it's due time. It is about hierarchy, if you put weak people in power they'll game the system and push whatever the mob wants, it won't stop with random tech lingo.

Re: Gitlab default branch name changes to main

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Post by buzzert »

cobraetor wrote: post #141
mswtk wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I for one think it's great that people are willing to make things a little more accessible for more people. If people want to be part of our community of developers I think it's great that these organizations listen to people who might have a problem with certain terminology. Even though I don't have a problem with those terms, I think it's still worth evaluating if they're worth keeping if it makes it harder for s…

> Is it more accessible? As in, is this change driven by complaints from actual people who feel excluded by the terminology? As far as I'm aware, none of the projects making these changes even claims that, it's all speculation on behalf of hypothetical offended parties. I'm an African American, and no I'm not offended by Git's branch name. White progressives spend so much time on virtue signalling but hardly pay any…

Genuine question: do you feel like the changes are also condescending?

Re: Gitlab default branch name changes to main

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Post by garaetjjte »

rvnx wrote: post #107
egwor wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally agree with this. If someone still struggles to get behind it, think of the few chars that will be shorter to type and also think how it is much easier to compare the branch concept a real tree, and talk about the main branch. Maybe they could have gone for trunk? (If you care so much about main vs trunk, then choose whatever makes you happy)

It's very smart. Trunk is a better term than "main" and reflects very well the logic with the tree and historical naming (including CVS, SVN, and the trunk software itself). main implies that one branch is more important than the others. This could be offending to some.

>main implies that one branch is more important than the others. This could be offending to some.

I can't tell if this is satire or not.

Re: Gitlab default branch name changes to main

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Post by alacombe »

ec109685 wrote: post #170
gher-shyu3i wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is blacklist and whitelist offensive now? It seems that some people have nothing better to do than make trouble for the sake of it.

It reinforces black is bad and white is good. Also, deny list and allow list are more precise terms anyway.

Black bad and white good will remain until you feel safer in pitch BLACK night than during daylight. It has nothing to do with American socio-cultural societal illness.

Re: Gitlab default branch name changes to main

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Post by alacombe »

beojan wrote: post #13
Longhanks wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, and gits is not the same one as a slave master.

Turns out it is: > This term came from Bitkeeper, a predecessor to Git. Bitkeeper referred to the source of truth as the "master repository" and other copies as "slave repositories".

Just the same as a Master's degree.

edit: to the downvoters:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master%27s_degree

A master's degree[note 1] (from Latin magister) is an academic degree awarded by universities or colleges upon completion of a course of study demonstrating mastery or a high-order overview of a specific field of study or area of professional practice.

The holders of a Master's degree are expected to be the "source of truth", as much as git's master branch is the "source of truth".

Re: Gitlab default branch name changes to main

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Post by alacombe »

nobody0 wrote: post #115

Actually, almost all of our ancestors had been slaves longer or shorter in history regardless of race/country.

It only matter in an American context. Nobody's give a rat fuck about white people enslaving other white people, or black people still enslaving other people in Africa TODAY.

Re: Gitlab default branch name changes to main

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Post by alacombe »

dang wrote: post #154
gear54rus wrote: post #2

Another victim of this hysteria. Will surely make a point to switch it back every time I create a repo.

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. This sort of provocation is close to trolling. It seriously damages the thread, especially when the topic is provocative. Please don't do it again. There are plenty of ways to make substantive comments on both sides of this question, as other users have demonstrated. Please either do that instead, or (always a fine option) don't post. https://news.ycombinator.com/ne…

This all thread is a huge flamewar...
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