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Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Not sure GP's meaning, but just guessing here, maybe it trains people to hit "I agree" to everything without understanding, so when they get an actually security warning they just click right past it.

Gdpr means you need to have a disagree button. Just click it for everything

Or just avoid the site completely. xkcd doesn't shower me with such popups, neither does hackernews.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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GDPR is generally a good thing IMHO.

It seems this can only lead to

1) Rolling back to pre GDPR, where user data is largely a free for all 2) The UK having it's own 'unique' rules

Neither which seems very good for users and/or businesses.

Perhaps the point here is to make some kind dubious 'look what we can do because of brexit' argument. When the reality is that 'freedom' has a reality which is more negative than any positives it might have.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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You can store it wherever you want, so long as you're in compliance.

This is not true. For example sensitive data for German company must be stored in Germany, not Ireland.

It is true. If this is the case for Germany, it is Germany's own doing and outside the scope of gdpr.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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> Train company profits count for about 2% of the total cost of the ticket Considering that this is about the same as inflation and less than the usual annual ticket price increase which is decided in part by the government, I strongly suspect that this number is an accounting exercise more than anything else. There's also the profits made by the trains leasing companies as many TOCs lease their rolling stock > There…

Yes, the leasing companies make a fortune. On the other hand they take risk in tying up capital. I'm no fan of the franchise system - especially when companies like Virgin East Coast get out of the obligations if they don't make enough money, but rail is stronger now (well 2019) than it has been since before the motor car was created, and the strength coincided with the franchise system coming in. > People commute by…

I'm not sure train leasing is a profitable as a it was when BR was privatised and Porterbrook et al owned all the rolling stock

What seems to happen now is the manufacturers e.g. Hitachi lease the trains to TOCs complete with maintenance plans built it.

Think Eurostar was the first model of this in the Uk

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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>For example you think everyone else thinks the NHS is awesome, because left-wing journalists Or because 87% of Britons polled said that they are very proud of it. >you'd be shocked at how little support rail nationalisation would end up having. 56% in favor. 15% actively against. Majority support even by members of the party that was most against it. >The NHS is a socialist anachronism This is a popular view among i…

Let's not forget that approximately 20% of all UK COVID cases were caught in hospital. Not exactly the envy of the world. FWIW, I think we should keep the NHS and have it free at point of use. However, I don't really care how that service is provided - government employees, private, whatever - as long as the service is good.

It's been getting steadily albeit very slowly worse for years. The Conservative government has been following a variant of the privatization handbook for over a decade now: https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/06/tsa-as-example-of-pr...

Overall costs have not been going down much but various parts of the service are given to contractors who do a worse job at a higher price and take a fat cut. Richard Branson notably has done this. The PPE fiasco that caused much of the spread of COVID was largely because of this - much of it was bought and didn't arrive: https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/ppe-scandal-procur...

Nonetheless people's emotional impressions of the service tend to have a lag. Your Mother's cancer treatment from 9 years ago will have a much bigger effect on your impression of the institution than statistics about how well it is doing now.

Eventually it will be privatized entirely as a "fix" for the problems caused by privatization and the costs will skyrocket.

Just like the cost of my railway season ticket to London or a trip to the doctor in the US.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Removing or anonymizing PII in a large system not already designed for PII removal or one you don’t have resources to manage can be painful. Companies of all sizes can have a lot of PII and code that’s not GDPR compliant, and it’s non-trivial to fix that. When asked by a user to remove PII, the removal is sometimes incomplete at these companies. Even the process of incompletely the removing PII wastes time; the users…

So you are saying: * A company is holding PII in a system they don't have the resources to manage . * The software is insufficiently secure to hold that data. * The company appears to be even be holding data on people that didn't even do business with the company. * This is in-part caused by the (sub)hiring of companies that also were not scrupulous with PII in the past. You say that this hurts said company, and they…

An email address is PII. Given that many preexisting systems used email addresses as usernames to identify users, let’s say a small business in 2015 hired a company to create a web app which let a user create an account using their email address and it put the email address into a log file with that user’s activity. The contracted developer finished the site, which cost 25000 EUR, much more than the business could afford to spend on tech another ten years. If this company gets 500 GDPR requests and cannot remove the PII because they don’t have the skill or money, should that company be fined? Should it shut down? What if there were 14 million companies with the same problem?

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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> "b) The privatisation of British rail has been a disaster" Privatisation has not been perfect, but only someone who does not remember the old days of British Rail in the 1980s and 1990s would consider it a disaster. It's true that fares are high, but service levels and passenger numbers are both far above the British Rail days. (UK rail passenger numbers reached an all time record in 2019) Prior to Covid, many of t…

> Prior to Covid, many of the busiest lines were operating near their capacity limits, so setting fares any lower would just cause even more severe crowding. This isn't the vindication of privatisation you seem to think it is. Passenger numbers (and fares) are hitting records, and the operators are still using the exact same rolling stock as in 'the old days of British Rail'. Privatisation has led to massive corporat…

> and the operators are still using the exact same rolling stock as in 'the old days of British Rail'

Some are, some aren't - Cross Country had plenty of new rolling stock when they were Virgin owned, and GWR have replaced many of the 125s in the last 5yrs

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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The idea of GDPR was good, the execution was poor. All those pop ups in your way and you end up just hitting 'ok' anyway because it takes so long to figure them out. And big companies seem to completely ignore it anyway. Take twitter - all they have is a banner along the bottom that says: "By using Twitter’s services you agree to our Cookies Use. We and our partners operate globally and use cookies, including for ana…

The pop ups are not usually complaint though. So its not that the execution was poor, but rather that the enforcement is poor. Also, your Twitter quote shows another issue: conflating GDPR with the Cookie directive. They are two very different laws. GDPR is concerned with personally identifiable data and data protection, the cookie laws are concerned with tracking users online. GDPR applies to all data (not just webs…

Ok thanks for the clarification.

Twitter are specifically saying that they’re going to use cookies for a bunch of things there that are not necessary - like ads. So how is that allowed?

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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I voted remain but would vote leave if we were to ever have another referendum. The reason being is that it's clear to me now the direction that the EU is going in (removal of the nation state, EU army). Actually I think after seeing the vaccine rollout by the EU, many more Brits would vote to leave. It's interesting how events have turned out.

The mistake the EU did with the vaccine rollout is that it was talking to long instead buying. Otherwise something that needs to be taken into consideration is the following. Right now we have a global pandemic so all countries world wide are affected. And unless the whole world is vaccinated we won't get past it since the chance that mutations occur that all possible immune against our vaccines increases the more pe…

>I am unsure about russia.

You can easily find this information online. The following picture is pretty clear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_V_COVID-19_vaccine#/me...

Also Russia is quite open about licensing the vaccine production technology to other countries, e.g. one of the countries which will soon start manufacturing it domestically is Italy.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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I voted remain but would vote leave if we were to ever have another referendum. The reason being is that it's clear to me now the direction that the EU is going in (removal of the nation state, EU army). Actually I think after seeing the vaccine rollout by the EU, many more Brits would vote to leave. It's interesting how events have turned out.

The mistake the EU did with the vaccine rollout is that it was talking to long instead buying. Otherwise something that needs to be taken into consideration is the following. Right now we have a global pandemic so all countries world wide are affected. And unless the whole world is vaccinated we won't get past it since the chance that mutations occur that all possible immune against our vaccines increases the more pe…

Other than the US export ban, I haven’t managed to find any strong online evidence for your claims. Both Russia and China seem to have exported (or plan to export) large quantities of vaccines. And according to the European Commision, the UK does not have a ban in place, at least not officially.

My theory is simply that, at this point in time, the EU countries are insufficiently well linked and coordinated to face a crisis on this scale with the efficiency of something like the US, due in part to the variety of cultures, languages and political philosophies within the bloc.

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