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UK to depart from GDPR

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Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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No, I am not joking. Our politicians running unchecked isn't great for us, but at least they are no longer disrupting and influencing the whole of the EU. If we had remained then, what would the EU have prevented them from doing so far? Would they have stopped the corruption with regards to the Covid contracts? I guess we would have to keep GDPR, but then GDPR might have been stronger in the first place without the U…

> the UK used to be a major world advocate for human rights >Yes, but we aren't any more Have you got a source for this?

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/sep/22/uk-failing-on-ma...

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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This is an illusion, only thing that happened is that you only get access to websites if you give away your GDPR consent. I love the ignorance of people over here thinking that GDPR is nothing more than just that accept button that people click in order to get access to the websites.

I have never observed a non-techie do anything other than blindly click the call to action (i.e. agree to everything). The entire scheme seems sneakily designed to actually encourage users to give more and explicit consent, avoiding the situation where consent was a grey area. It seems to have been spun to a great extent.

> The entire scheme seems sneakily designed to actually encourage users to give more and explicit consent

The law itself says that the default option should be to opt-out. Any site that doesn't have precisely equally prominent "agree to all" and "deny all" buttons violate the GDPR.

The problem seems to be in the complete lack of enforcement.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Actually, there's plenty of people with white teeth. Meanwhile, the intent is to avoid the people with purple teeth until they learn to brush responsibly. ;-) (Or if you truly must interact with them: use a lot of ad blockers and privacy tools; because you know what you're getting into)

I'm totally good with there being laws about this as I too want to see less tracking and data sharing. But the implementation is terrible and anybody who thinks that it's fixed anything at all is just kidding themselves. I would rather bad actors were punished and enforced cookie banners were eliminated.

Well, that's why the GDPR tried to get rid of them. Of course people now put up GDPR barriers ;-)

It's really hard to legislate against something that some people really want to do :-/

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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The government is severely underfunding the NHS, despite paying it lip service Have you ever known any government departments that don’t howl about being underfunded? The NHS is the 4th largest employer in the world, 1.3 million employees to provide healthcare to a nation of 67 million. The Labour Party is currently claiming that NHS spending will be cut next year... because the emergency funding for the Covid situat…

> The NHS is the 4th largest employer in the world, 1.3 million employees to provide healthcare to a nation of 67 million. Yet taxpayer funding for health per head of population in the UK is lower than France Germany Sweden Switzerland And get this -- THE USA In 2009 - so before Obamacare came in, the US government spent $3,700 per person on healthcare. Not per person covered by medicare and military, per citizen. Th…

Spending is irrelevant, the success lies in outcomes. You brought the US up, and it’s a good example here: very high costs, poor outcomes.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Honestly I think France is somewhat exceptional there, with the rioting for workers rights. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but it does seem unusually French. From what I can tell the workers rights situation in France really does dissuade some companies from setting up there.

I mean, France is possibly an extreme case here, but in most developed countries this would be pretty unthinkable (assuming it really is a law that just allows small businesses fire people without notice in normal circumstances; firing people without notice for gross misconduct or due to liquidation is generally allowed, though in the liquidation case the employees would then usually be creditors for the notice pay t…

Yeah I agree it's not good. I was disturbed enough to hear about "at will" rules in the US and that seems like more of the same.

I think there would be a lot of noise in the press about it here, but I don't think riots in the streets would be part of it!

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Lowering taxes, lowering regulatory and environmental standards, and undoing workers' rights legislation can all increase the wealth of those who are already wealthy. I'm not saying all of those things are in the pipeline, but they've all been proposed by pro-Brexit politicians (and this article is one example of lowering regulatory standards).

Oh and second amendment style gun rights too

Absolute nonsense. Only a few days ago it was the 25th anniversary of Dunblane, a massacre that will never be forgotten and out of which the snowdrop petition forced the government to have some of the strictest gun laws in the world. Who in the UK looks at the US and thinks "yes, we should have more guns"?

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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‘too many businesses and organisations are reluctant to use data – either because they don’t understand the rules or are afraid of inadvertently breaking them’ TBH I'm glad companies stay away from my data if they don't know how to get consent, store data securely, or even what those things mean.

Most of these companies wouldn't know how to make much use of the data anyway. My experience working with companies and analytics (even did an analytics startup some years back) is that they haven't a clue about how to actually use it and just heard that more data is somehow better.

That to me sounds like they're most likely to sell the data, since they don't know how to use it themselves. Better these companies have less data, not more.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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GDPR has not much to do with cookies, and more to do with how your data is captured and used. Most of the "annoying" cookie banners and popups are related to the e-privacy regulation [1].

I am not sure this will have a significant impact, as UK will have to comply with GDPR if they want to to reach European customers.

[1] https://www.activemind.legal/gb/guides/eprivacy-regulation/

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#430
The idea of GDPR was good, the execution was poor. All those pop ups in your way and you end up just hitting 'ok' anyway because it takes so long to figure them out.

And big companies seem to completely ignore it anyway. Take twitter - all they have is a banner along the bottom that says:

"By using Twitter’s services you agree to our Cookies Use. We and our partners operate globally and use cookies, including for analytics, personalisation, and ads."

and a close button. How is that consent?

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