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UK to depart from GDPR

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Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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post #85

Well, we'll see. The pandemic has shown that tracking can be a huge economic advantage - and it's likely not the last pandemic we encounter. OTOH targeting adtech can redirect resources to some more potentially useful areas.

I don't think GDPR applies to governments anyway, does it?

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#102
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no doubt you're right, but I'm just not familiar with the specific details. What are some real ways they stand to "profit immensely"?

Lowering taxes, lowering regulatory and environmental standards, and undoing workers' rights legislation can all increase the wealth of those who are already wealthy. I'm not saying all of those things are in the pipeline, but they've all been proposed by pro-Brexit politicians (and this article is one example of lowering regulatory standards).

Privatising the health system is the elephant in the room that's been talked about a lot.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#103

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

Why is it inevitable that the UK will become like America? There are plenty of independent Algo-States that are nothing like it. Australia, New Zealand, Canada for example.

This comment seems to be borne out spite more than any kind of logic.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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post #73
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

48% of us realized this

This is the thing that pissed me off the most about the referendum. The result was touted as an overwhelming majority but in fact the percentages are well within the margin for error on a poll that wasn't very well defined from the outset (ie what "leave" meant was different for different people). The only thing the EU referendum conclusively demonstrated was how easily manipulated people are by the media they consum…

I think it was fitting, considering how UK joined the EU in the first place (look up Maastricht Treaty if you don't remember it).

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#105

To 99% of internet users, GDPR has meant nothing except extra popups, blocked access to some websites, and an additional regulatory burden. In some cases bad actors exploited GDPR for fraudulent purposes - eg. requesting a full account deletion in the event of a ban. They can then recreate the same account with the same data.

I can play that courtroom drama game, too!

Right to restriction of processing is not right to restriction of storage. Trying to re-register with your banned e-mail address is consent to processing and subsequent refusal to serve the person.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the data could be exported to any country whose laws offer the same level of protection.

You can store it wherever you want, so long as you're in compliance.

> You can store it wherever you want, as long as you're in compliance.

From a GDPR standpoint, compliance means that the country where the data is stored has an agreement with the EU AND you must have enforceable and strong, negative consequences for the foreign party in your contract.

The EU can only make such an agreement for a foreign country if the data protection laws are sufficient. I do not know whether or not the UK laws are considered sufficient, but without any such agreement, you cannot assume that you can just store EU personal data in the UK.

With the death of Privacy Shield and its siblings, this first requirement isn't even the case for the US anymore as the US will not guarantee the safety of EU citizens' information from things like the patriot act. However, I haven't seen any country complain about storing data with Google, Amazon or Facebook yet so I don't think this rule will be enforced any time soon. Technically, though, storing PII in a foreign, non-EU country without the necessary requirements is still very much illegal with the full suite of fines available to the data processing agencies.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#107
post #6

YIPPEE. Does this mean no more of those stupid little popups every time I see a site? HOORAY. Does it mean less absurd bureaucracy and non-jobs? GREAT. As for data privacy... does anyone seriously think that Facebook was stopped from collecting data due to GDPR?

From my experience, unless I'm missing something, they're annoying because they're not that well implemented, maybe even on purpose?

Sites where I have granted access keep asking me to re-grant no matter what. Sites where I have denied do the same (although here I would expect it, not that I agree, since I already clicked "no").

And actually it's cool, sometimes you go to some docs and there's 33 "essential" cookies for the well functioning of the website (for a paid product) from which 30 are trackers.

Others, like wetransfer will show them as non-essential when receiving a file, but about the same amount of trackers, and this is ok, it's well defined and they're not trying to trick me into clicking "accept essential cookies" with 30 trackers tackled on them.

Perhaps one day we can start blacklisting those who don't implement a correct consent cookie form from the internet and dns wouldn't resolve for those non-compliant domains.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#108

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

I have many British friends who were absolutely against this, I also know a former boss who was very public about his Brexit vote and like many of those who voted for it, will be too old to have to deal with the consequences of this decision. If anything I think it is rather unfair to hear people from other EU countries treating this process as something along the lines of 'suits them' and 'they've made their bed'. W…

> a large chunk of them have pretty much not agreed

Yes, but a far larger chunk has. Every country gets the leaders it deserves and the UK is no exception.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#109

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

I have many British friends who were absolutely against this, I also know a former boss who was very public about his Brexit vote and like many of those who voted for it, will be too old to have to deal with the consequences of this decision. If anything I think it is rather unfair to hear people from other EU countries treating this process as something along the lines of 'suits them' and 'they've made their bed'. W…

I'm 24 and voted for brexit. In fact I campaigned for it and would do so again. It's really a very poor form to resort to the "dumb old racists voted for brexit hurr".

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah we saw the mighty EU negotiation leverage with COVID vaccine... UK market is large enough to stand on it's own and EU has been grossly incompetent in public for a while now. There's going to be downsides for sure but becoming "America like" is not going to be one of them.

You're cherry picking.

This is exactly the kind of situation Government is for. Protecting its people from a foe that can only be defeated at a national level.

The European Union has categorically failed, and if it survives this, it will need huge amounts of change.

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